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The last time Apple was beaten by Microsoft (although it had partnerships originally) as it considered IBM its major threat. This time around I think Apple will
by poundy 16y ago
The last time Apple was beaten by Microsoft (although it had partnerships originally) as it considered IBM its major threat. This time around I think Apple will be beaten by Google as it is having most of its focus on Microsoft.
- raimondious 16y agoIt seems like Apple is ignoring or allying with Microsoft, e.g., threatening to replace Google with Bing as the default search on the iPhone. Meanwhile they are focusing heavily on competing with Google: reacting to Google's Android OS with multitasking on the iPhone, going on the offensive with iAds to compete with Google's text-based ads.
- WildUtah 16y agoApple was beaten by Microsoft (although it had partnerships originally) as it considered IBM its major threat. This time around I think Apple will be beaten by Google as it is having most of its focus on Microsoft. Much more likely is that Apple will once again be beaten by Microsoft because it considers Google its major threat. Apple has a blind spot for the idea that a company without any quality technology can crush it. Accordingly today's Apple considers Google its major competition. The thing that can do in both Apple and Google is that Microsoft still owns the Desktop and can extend its monopoly onto other platforms. Bing wouldn't have any traction without the ability to control IE and install itself by default. Lucky for Google, manufacturers can change it; if it hadn't been for the Clinton Justice anti-trust suit they would still be prohibited from changing it and Microsoft would have already killed Google. IE has had as its main mission for a decade the prevention of HTML/DHTML/AJAX applications that run with Web standards just as well as Desktop apps and resistance to quality standard versions of HTML5 will be led by a raft of subtle Microsoft incompatibilities. That will extend the Win32 API monopoly. If Google and Apple can't understand that, all the tech and design in the world won't save them.
- raimondious 16y ago"IE has had as its main mission for a decade the prevention of HTML/DHTML/AJAX applications that run with Web standards just as well as Desktop apps" I don't think that's accurate since IE introduced XMLHttpRequest, vital to AJAX.
- WildUtah 16y ago1) I wrote AJAX apps before XMLHttpRequest. It was simple enough. You opened an invisible frame and downloaded 'HTML' pages that consisted of a couple opening tags and whatever JSON you wanted (we didn't call it JSON back then, but that's what it looked like). Then you read the objects and updated your main page. 2) Sure XMLHttpRequest is nice. IE implements good things like that to maintain market share but then ensures that it is never up to standards in order to cripple the possibility of a capable open standard platform emerging. Witness the slow response times, lack of support for Canvas, PNG (still), broken box models (still, through at least IE7), broken message model, and more. That would all be easy to fix if MS wanted to. They make more money without a widespread good, fast standards-based browser in the market.
- contextfree 16y agoer sorta. it has more to do with the fact that most of the IE team (along with the GDI and USER teams) was moved into the WPF team after the release of IE6. by that time they weren't really trying to tie the web to Windows anymore, they thought the web was obsolete and were trying to replace it entirely.
- blubb 16y agoTrue, and they did it for OWA. When they realized the consequences of what they had done, they stopped IE development for several years.