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Well those roundabouts do give them an unfair advantage. All joking aside, that video was of a research vehicle. The article above is for a car you can buy ri

Well those roundabouts do give them an unfair advantage. All joking aside, that video was of a research vehicle. The article above is for a car you can buy right now.

ufmace 10y ago
Well, you can buy the car with the hardware, but the self-driving part is still a ways out as far as public availability.
- lazaroclapp 10y ago
  Wonder how long it will take for someone to jail break that hardware and hack up some v0.0.1alpha open source self-driving software for it. Not saying it would be wise, but it seems like the kind of thing people traditionally do for "locked up hardware, with software-enable coming in the future" (see gaming consoles, routers, etc).
  - jwagenet 10y ago
    Seems like something geohot can cook up, since he already has experience with both activities.
  - YeGoblynQueenne 10y ago
    >> jail break that hardware and hack up some v0.0.1alpha open source self-driving software for it. That "someone" would have to be a world leading AI research team, to "hack" something that would be a few decades ahead of the current state of the art. But alright.
    - lazaroclapp 10y ago
      Not really. The state of the art will get you a self driving car, just not a very safe one. Think more 1995 CMU Navlab and less anything that would ever be approved or marketed to the public. Self-driving car technology is 20 years old. Self-driving car technology I would be willing to trust my life to is... well -2 to -5 years old at best.
      - YeGoblynQueenne 10y ago
        >> Not really. The state of the art will get you a self driving car, just not a very safe one. Well, you can get a "not very safe" self-driving car by tying a brick to the gas pedal. It'll sure "drive" itself (in a mostly straight line).
        lazaroclapp 10y ago
        Sure. But that's not the kind of thing a IoT hacker would consider a success. Someone might be content, however, with making a mod for Tesla that can e.g. follow "complex" paths of bright orange cones in a parking lot. Test it there, without being in the car themselves and put it on GitHub for bragging rights of having made a cool AI+Systems project. The problem is then someone might see that "cool hack", think it is more than it really is, and kill themselves turning it on while on the highway...

Well those roundabouts do give them an unfair advantage. All joking aside, that video was of a research vehicle. The article above is for a car you can buy right now.

ufmace 10y ago

Well, you can buy the car with the hardware, but the self-driving part is still a ways out as far as public availability.

lazaroclapp 10y ago
Wonder how long it will take for someone to jail break that hardware and hack up some v0.0.1alpha open source self-driving software for it. Not saying it would be wise, but it seems like the kind of thing people traditionally do for "locked up hardware, with software-enable coming in the future" (see gaming consoles, routers, etc).
- jwagenet 10y ago
  Seems like something geohot can cook up, since he already has experience with both activities.
- YeGoblynQueenne 10y ago
  >> jail break that hardware and hack up some v0.0.1alpha open source self-driving software for it. That "someone" would have to be a world leading AI research team, to "hack" something that would be a few decades ahead of the current state of the art. But alright.
  - lazaroclapp 10y ago
    Not really. The state of the art will get you a self driving car, just not a very safe one. Think more 1995 CMU Navlab and less anything that would ever be approved or marketed to the public. Self-driving car technology is 20 years old. Self-driving car technology I would be willing to trust my life to is... well -2 to -5 years old at best.
    - YeGoblynQueenne 10y ago
      >> Not really. The state of the art will get you a self driving car, just not a very safe one. Well, you can get a "not very safe" self-driving car by tying a brick to the gas pedal. It'll sure "drive" itself (in a mostly straight line).
      - lazaroclapp 10y ago
        Sure. But that's not the kind of thing a IoT hacker would consider a success. Someone might be content, however, with making a mod for Tesla that can e.g. follow "complex" paths of bright orange cones in a parking lot. Test it there, without being in the car themselves and put it on GitHub for bragging rights of having made a cool AI+Systems project. The problem is then someone might see that "cool hack", think it is more than it really is, and kill themselves turning it on while on the highway...