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>Unfortunately this is really common on HN nowadays. I see things differently. Anyone who criticized Theranos was met with the same reaction, "Everyone on HN

>Unfortunately this is really common on HN nowadays. I see things differently. Anyone who criticized Theranos was met with the same reaction, "Everyone on HN is so negative!" But the questions were valid. Look what happened. The same thing is occurring with Tesla. Yes, there is fantastic work being done, but many people here can't separate marketing from the real world. It's shocking, frankly.

tcoppi 10y ago
Are you suggesting that Tesla is defrauding investors and regulators, as Theranos did?
- planteen 10y ago
  When I looked into the Solar City after the announcement of the Tesla buying them, these "Solar Bonds" did make me a bit uneasy. Their interest rate implies junk... https://solarbonds.solarcity.com/ https://solarbonds.solarcity.com/
- FireBeyond 10y ago
  No, he's suggesting, in exactly his own words, "many people can't separate marketing from the real world".
  - tcoppi 10y ago
    If the "marketing" Tesla is putting out is not part of the real world, that would be fraud, which was the situation with Theranos.
- forgetsusername 10y ago
  >Are you suggesting that Tesla is defrauding investors and regulators, as Theranos did? I'm suggesting that there's a lack of critical analysis applied to what are, essentially, Tesla press releases. Like when it was implied that people were sexist for questioning the genius of Elizabeth Holmes, because she was changing the world and all that, according to the press releases. Again, I have no problem with being a Tesla fan. I probably come off as a "hater" here because I like to play Devil's Advocate and it's a pretty one-sided discussion on HackerNews (expectedly). I think what they're doing is fantastic. But give some credit to other companies who are also doing good things for this space, people's safety and the planet.

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>Unfortunately this is really common on HN nowadays. I see things differently. Anyone who criticized Theranos was met with the same reaction, "Everyone on HN

by forgetsusername 10y ago

tcoppi 10y ago
Are you suggesting that Tesla is defrauding investors and regulators, as Theranos did?
- planteen 10y ago
  When I looked into the Solar City after the announcement of the Tesla buying them, these "Solar Bonds" did make me a bit uneasy. Their interest rate implies junk... https://solarbonds.solarcity.com/ https://solarbonds.solarcity.com/
- FireBeyond 10y ago
  No, he's suggesting, in exactly his own words, "many people can't separate marketing from the real world".
  - tcoppi 10y ago
    If the "marketing" Tesla is putting out is not part of the real world, that would be fraud, which was the situation with Theranos.
- forgetsusername 10y ago
  >Are you suggesting that Tesla is defrauding investors and regulators, as Theranos did? I'm suggesting that there's a lack of critical analysis applied to what are, essentially, Tesla press releases. Like when it was implied that people were sexist for questioning the genius of Elizabeth Holmes, because she was changing the world and all that, according to the press releases. Again, I have no problem with being a Tesla fan. I probably come off as a "hater" here because I like to play Devil's Advocate and it's a pretty one-sided discussion on HackerNews (expectedly). I think what they're doing is fantastic. But give some credit to other companies who are also doing good things for this space, people's safety and the planet.