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Or whats the maintenance schedule for these things? Suddenly we have tons of complexity to worry about. How will this affect the used market where repairs are u

Or whats the maintenance schedule for these things? Suddenly we have tons of complexity to worry about. How will this affect the used market where repairs are usually DIY? Is the used market for autonomous cars pretty much dead because 3rd party mechanics will have no idea how to service these things? I imagine so. What does that do to resale value? I've read about how hard it is to sell an aging Prius because the battery pack has to be replaced. Its apparently not easy to do and the part is very expensive. For used car buyers you're better off buying a gas civic if you want an efficient older car. ICE doesn't age like electric.

neogodless 10y ago
This has been a "potential problem" lobbied against advances in car technology since... the beginning of car technology. Obviously you need different (and many could argue "more difficult to learn") skills compared to mechanical repair. But that's always been the direction car repair has headed, from the beginning. Ideally, there's a fair amount of (reliable) self-diagnosis. If you merely have to replace a camera that starts to malfunction, it might not be any more difficult than replacing a starter or an alternator (depending on construction.)
- drzaiusapelord 10y ago
  Its a little different now that you're just not replacing static parts. Sure you can replace a complex fuel controller and such in a modern car which means plugging a box into some wires, but what about something that is net enabled, requires some subscription (or active warranty) and is constantly being updated and monitored by Tesla HQ? Where do you get a new central computer for an old Tesla? How to you get it back onto HQ? Will you be allowed to? Its a bit like building a PC vs having a smartphone, which is mostly run by the OS supplier and carrier. The former is doable but the latter is way too locked down for the DIY crowd. The phone-ifcation of all things is concerning from many perspectives.

neogodless 10y ago

This has been a "potential problem" lobbied against advances in car technology since... the beginning of car technology. Obviously you need different (and many could argue "more difficult to learn") skills compared to mechanical repair. But that's always been the direction car repair has headed, from the beginning. Ideally, there's a fair amount of (reliable) self-diagnosis. If you merely have to replace a camera that starts to malfunction, it might not be any more difficult than replacing a starter or an alternator (depending on construction.)

drzaiusapelord 10y ago
Its a little different now that you're just not replacing static parts. Sure you can replace a complex fuel controller and such in a modern car which means plugging a box into some wires, but what about something that is net enabled, requires some subscription (or active warranty) and is constantly being updated and monitored by Tesla HQ? Where do you get a new central computer for an old Tesla? How to you get it back onto HQ? Will you be allowed to? Its a bit like building a PC vs having a smartphone, which is mostly run by the OS supplier and carrier. The former is doable but the latter is way too locked down for the DIY crowd. The phone-ifcation of all things is concerning from many perspectives.