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Have you considered Amazon Cloud Drive if it's for personal use?

by jl6 10y ago

vbezhenar 10y ago
$60/year is too much for me. I have around 200GB data for backup now, slowly growing. It's $0.007 * 200 * 12 = $16/year for Google cold storage. Also I'm skeptical about "Unlimited Storage", there's always a limit and I prefer to know about it beforehand. Of course Amazon Cloud Drive looks nice for people who wants to backup their media with little effort. I'm using a bit different approach, I'm backing up my data to a home server, but I need a reliable mirror in case of emergency.
- jbergens 10y ago
  Google Nearline seems to be $0.01 / GB / month which would be about $24 / year for you. Sounds good since you can retrieve data whenever you want without any extra cost. I would probably use that for my backups if I ran out of space on my normal storage.
  - lucaspiller 10y ago
    The retrieval cost for Nearline is also $0.01/GB [0], still compared to Glacier's pricing, it makes a lot more sense. [0] https://cloud.google.com/storage/archival/ https://cloud.google.com/storage/archival/ - At the bottom
  - hga 10y ago
    But per this announcement Google's new "Coldline" storage hits the AWS Glacier 0.7 cents/GB/month price point, and without Glacier's mindboggling operational and billing complexity, long delays on retrievals, and I think the particularly huge bills if you need a lot of that data all at once, i.e. for restoring a backup. (Can't remember the Glacier numbers for the latter (too complicated for me to remember), but Google makes Coldline retrieval simple, 5 cents/GB.) In fact, it's implied they believe Coldline is the biggest new thing they're doing, for it's the first thing in the announcement they discuss in detail. It's certainly got me interested.
- Veratyr 10y ago
  For the record I'm aware of people with 10s of TB in Amazon Cloud Drive without any issues. It is of course yet to be seen whether they'll pull a Microsoft and take it back.
  - boundlessdreamz 10y ago
    Well, they did make the unlimited photos plan prime only without grandfathering people in - http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/23/13027082/amazon-prints-photo-service-unlimited-storage http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/23/13027082/amazon-prints-pho...
andrewbinstock 10y ago
Heads-up about Amazon Cloud Drive. From their TOS: "We may use, access, and retain Your Files in order to provide the Services to you, enforce the terms of the Agreement, and improve our services, and you give us all permissions we need to do so. These permissions include, for example, the rights to copy Your Files, modify Your Files to enable access in different formats, use information about Your Files to organize them on your behalf."
- kl4m 10y ago
  You are asking them to store your files and give them back to you on request, after all.
bedros 10y ago
amazon has limits on the type files you store in drive, and they can terminate the service at any time without notice. That's all according to their terms of use that's very scary if they can terminate my service and delete all my binary backups because they did not like binary files. https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/?nodeId=201376540&ref_=cd_tou_fp&&ref_=cd_tou_rd https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/?nodeId...
- RJIb8RBYxzAMX9u 10y ago
  IANAL, but it's just a catch-all clause so they could kick "abusers" without worrying that whatever "infraction" was not explicitly enumerated in the terms. For comparison, CrashPlan has a similar clause (see section 11)[0]. Ditto Backblaze (see "Our Rights")[1]. I wouldn't be surprised that all "unlimited" consumer products have similar clauses. If this is a concern for you, use a metered product. [0] https://support.code42.com/Terms_And_Conditions/End_User_License_Agreements/CrashPlan_For_Home_EULA https://support.code42.com/Terms_And_Conditions/End_User_Lic... [1] https://www.backblaze.com/company/terms.html https://www.backblaze.com/company/terms.html
  - brianwski 10y ago
    Disclaimer: I work at Backblaze. For our Personal Backup product (fixed $5/month for as much data as you can keep on your laptop) your data is encrypted on your laptop BEFORE UPLOADING to Backblaze, and we have no idea what is inside your files and I assure you we don't want to know. (Look into setting your own private encryption key if you are worried at all about this.) In our 10 year history we have never once removed a customer's file because we objected to the file contents in that customer's Personal Backup because we simply don't know what is in the files. For our other product line (B2 Cloud Storage for half a penny per GByte per month) the problem is you can have a "Private" bucket at which point we absolutely DO NOT care what you store. But if you have a "Public" bucket that is a public website. If you have public bucket serving up illegal content such as a phishing website or sharing bootleg songs or movies that you do not have legal rights to share, then we may shut you down (turn the bucket "Private" so nobody but you can get the data). TL;DR - use our Personal Backup product or a "Private" bucket and store WHATEVER YOU WANT. But if you break the law serving up a website from Backblaze we have an obligation to shut you down.

Have you considered Amazon Cloud Drive if it's for personal use?

by jl6 10y ago

Have you considered Amazon Cloud Drive if it's for personal use?

$60/year is too much for me. I have around 200GB data for backup now, slowly growing. It's $0.007 * 200 * 12 = $16/year for Google cold storage. Also I'm skeptical about "Unlimited Storage", there's always a limit and I prefer to know about it beforehand. Of course Amazon Cloud Drive looks nice for people who wants to backup their media with little effort. I'm using a bit different approach, I'm backing up my data to a home server, but I need a reliable mirror in case of emergency.

jbergens 10y ago
Google Nearline seems to be $0.01 / GB / month which would be about $24 / year for you. Sounds good since you can retrieve data whenever you want without any extra cost. I would probably use that for my backups if I ran out of space on my normal storage.
- lucaspiller 10y ago
  The retrieval cost for Nearline is also $0.01/GB [0], still compared to Glacier's pricing, it makes a lot more sense. [0] https://cloud.google.com/storage/archival/ https://cloud.google.com/storage/archival/ - At the bottom
- hga 10y ago
  But per this announcement Google's new "Coldline" storage hits the AWS Glacier 0.7 cents/GB/month price point, and without Glacier's mindboggling operational and billing complexity, long delays on retrievals, and I think the particularly huge bills if you need a lot of that data all at once, i.e. for restoring a backup. (Can't remember the Glacier numbers for the latter (too complicated for me to remember), but Google makes Coldline retrieval simple, 5 cents/GB.) In fact, it's implied they believe Coldline is the biggest new thing they're doing, for it's the first thing in the announcement they discuss in detail. It's certainly got me interested.
Veratyr 10y ago
For the record I'm aware of people with 10s of TB in Amazon Cloud Drive without any issues. It is of course yet to be seen whether they'll pull a Microsoft and take it back.
- boundlessdreamz 10y ago
  Well, they did make the unlimited photos plan prime only without grandfathering people in - http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/23/13027082/amazon-prints-photo-service-unlimited-storage http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/23/13027082/amazon-prints-pho...

andrewbinstock 10y ago

Heads-up about Amazon Cloud Drive. From their TOS: "We may use, access, and retain Your Files in order to provide the Services to you, enforce the terms of the Agreement, and improve our services, and you give us all permissions we need to do so. These permissions include, for example, the rights to copy Your Files, modify Your Files to enable access in different formats, use information about Your Files to organize them on your behalf."

kl4m 10y ago
You are asking them to store your files and give them back to you on request, after all.

bedros 10y ago

amazon has limits on the type files you store in drive, and they can terminate the service at any time without notice. That's all according to their terms of use that's very scary if they can terminate my service and delete all my binary backups because they did not like binary files. https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/?nodeId=201376540&ref_=cd_tou_fp&&ref_=cd_tou_rd https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/?nodeId...

RJIb8RBYxzAMX9u 10y ago
IANAL, but it's just a catch-all clause so they could kick "abusers" without worrying that whatever "infraction" was not explicitly enumerated in the terms. For comparison, CrashPlan has a similar clause (see section 11)[0]. Ditto Backblaze (see "Our Rights")[1]. I wouldn't be surprised that all "unlimited" consumer products have similar clauses. If this is a concern for you, use a metered product. [0] https://support.code42.com/Terms_And_Conditions/End_User_License_Agreements/CrashPlan_For_Home_EULA https://support.code42.com/Terms_And_Conditions/End_User_Lic... [1] https://www.backblaze.com/company/terms.html https://www.backblaze.com/company/terms.html
- brianwski 10y ago
  Disclaimer: I work at Backblaze. For our Personal Backup product (fixed $5/month for as much data as you can keep on your laptop) your data is encrypted on your laptop BEFORE UPLOADING to Backblaze, and we have no idea what is inside your files and I assure you we don't want to know. (Look into setting your own private encryption key if you are worried at all about this.) In our 10 year history we have never once removed a customer's file because we objected to the file contents in that customer's Personal Backup because we simply don't know what is in the files. For our other product line (B2 Cloud Storage for half a penny per GByte per month) the problem is you can have a "Private" bucket at which point we absolutely DO NOT care what you store. But if you have a "Public" bucket that is a public website. If you have public bucket serving up illegal content such as a phishing website or sharing bootleg songs or movies that you do not have legal rights to share, then we may shut you down (turn the bucket "Private" so nobody but you can get the data). TL;DR - use our Personal Backup product or a "Private" bucket and store WHATEVER YOU WANT. But if you break the law serving up a website from Backblaze we have an obligation to shut you down.