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>I consider anything that makes a candidate look confused or stupid or ineffective politically loaded, damaging to reputation (in the context of an election) an

>I consider anything that makes a candidate look confused or stupid or ineffective politically loaded, damaging to reputation (in the context of an election) and therefore libelous. The you are clearly misinformed as to the nature, facts, and purpose of libel law, and it would be a mistake for anyone to believe what you have to say on the matter. Using an unflattering picture or depiction cannot be libel. Making a false statements (an in the case of public figures, such as presidential candidates) those statements must be made with "actual malice" or be published with a reckless disregard for the truth. N.B. I am not a lawyer.

jwtadvice 10y ago
Seems to be on the same line as this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12748759 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12748759 It's a mistake to take everything everyone says as legalese. I mean these terms in the vernacular sense. It seems to me that you are trying to pick a very technical fight in a forum where it is not suited. Neither you nor I are lawyers and this is not a courtroom. Do you understand what I mean by libelous?
- diyorgasms 10y ago
  It seems you are intent on using the term "libel" which carries a very specific and technical meaning. As best as I can parse, you mean to say they chose a deliberately unflattering picture. I suppose I understand what you are going for, but you are not doing yourself any favors by using a term that has a very specific meaning in a non-standard manner and expecting people to understand that you are using that word in a non-standard manner.
  - jwtadvice 10y ago
    As the use of the term completely derailed the thread into unproductive and off-topic territory, I acknowledge that my uncareful use of it has done me no favors and invited a variety of "conversation noise." I find it unfortunate that conversations can be and are derailed so effectively this way. I'll try to avoid the term in the future when speaking about both Clinton, Trump and others. I edited the top comment to reflect this.

jwtadvice 10y ago

Seems to be on the same line as this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12748759 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12748759 It's a mistake to take everything everyone says as legalese. I mean these terms in the vernacular sense. It seems to me that you are trying to pick a very technical fight in a forum where it is not suited. Neither you nor I are lawyers and this is not a courtroom. Do you understand what I mean by libelous?

diyorgasms 10y ago
It seems you are intent on using the term "libel" which carries a very specific and technical meaning. As best as I can parse, you mean to say they chose a deliberately unflattering picture. I suppose I understand what you are going for, but you are not doing yourself any favors by using a term that has a very specific meaning in a non-standard manner and expecting people to understand that you are using that word in a non-standard manner.
- jwtadvice 10y ago
  As the use of the term completely derailed the thread into unproductive and off-topic territory, I acknowledge that my uncareful use of it has done me no favors and invited a variety of "conversation noise." I find it unfortunate that conversations can be and are derailed so effectively this way. I'll try to avoid the term in the future when speaking about both Clinton, Trump and others. I edited the top comment to reflect this.