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Being Christian does not imply being tolerant of tolerant of discrimination, judgement, and torture. Being a Trump supporter does mean giving support to Trump a

Being Christian does not imply being tolerant of tolerant of discrimination, judgement, and torture. Being a Trump supporter does mean giving support to Trump and all he stands for.

Cookingboy 10y ago
>Being a Trump supporter does mean giving support to Trump and all he stands for It means at least you put other things at higher priority than discrimination, torture, and promotion of violence and hatred and you are willing to at least ignore those. In my eyes, that's simply not acceptable. We aren't talking about economical policies or debate on tax laws here, we are talking about basic human decency.
- ElEmEnOhP 10y ago
  How is that any different than Clinton? She's talked about 'droning' people who oppose her viewpoints.
  - Cookingboy 10y ago
    Please show me verified proof where she publicly threatened violence or jail time or like you claimed, drone strike against her political opponents (they definitely oppose her viewpoints).
    - alain_gilbert 10y ago
      https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=can%27t+we+just+drone+this+guy https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&e...
- s_m_t 10y ago
  But being the secretary of state of the administration that assassinates US citizens without trial (including a 16 year old US citizen) and laughing on television about a world leader being killed and sodomized with knives by a mob on television is acceptable? We are all complicit in this madness. You should fire everyone and then fire yourself.
  - Cookingboy 10y ago
    Clinton did not order nor promote sodomizing a "world leader" (a brutal dictator, you made it sound like he's an elected leader from a democracy or something). The killing of the U.S. national without trial was done due to such individual's action. There was no condemnation of violence toward a large group of people due to racism or sexism. The world is obviously not perfect, but you can't use that as the basis of argument for "everything and everyone is just as bad as each other and things cannot possibly be worse".
    - s_m_t 10y ago
      No, she just helped destabilize the country until he was killed and sodomized. And then laughed about it, on television. Surely this was the administrations intention all along. Of course they didn't expect him to be sodomized but as long as he died one way or another I really doubt they cared. Of course, now Libya is still embroiled in civil war. The point is that there are legitimate reasons to support Trump over Hillary that don't involve someone being a racist, sexist, bigot. The world definitely isn't perfect and we have two (major) candidates to choose from that make a lot of reasonable people on both 'sides' existentially concerned about the future of the republic. I agree with your concerns about Trump. I just think Hillary is even scarier, especially because a lot of the type of people who would protest and politically mobilize against the actions I think she might take support her.
- DougN7 10y ago
  > t means at least you put other things at higher priority than discrimination, torture, and promotion of violence and hatred and you are willing to at least ignore those. Oh please... You're not being intellectually honest.
Hannan 10y ago
As someone who leans heavily Democrat, I disagree. There are many Trump "supporters" who just extremely dislike/disagree with Clinton. That doesn't mean they back "all he stands for" much as I don't personally back the separate email server, HRC's coziness with Wall Street, etc. We have a two party system. Support doesn't indicate 100% alignment.
eberkund 10y ago
>Being a Trump supporter does mean giving support to Trump and all he stands for. No it doesn't, since when does supporting a particular political candidate mean that you think they are the epitome of perfection? It simply means that you believe said candidate to be marginally better on the issues you care about, than the next most likely candidate to win the election.
Ar-Curunir 10y ago
Surprisingly, it does not mean that; it means that you prefer some of Trump's policies (whatever those might be) to Hillary's corresponding policies.
obstacle1 10y ago
I'm fascinated by the histories of rigidly black-and-white, mentally disadvantaged thinkers. How do they arrive at their bizarre positions? Not even from an immediate train of logic perspective, but from a life perspective. Some chain of events led to that bizarre, defective brain state which produces such strange, incoherent thoughts; what events constituted that chain? Could you tell us a bit about where you're from, how you grew up, whether or not you attended school, etc.? I think a little insight could help us all to be more tolerant of those with limited reasoning abilities.
- Turing_Machine 10y ago
  Eric Hoffer wrote a classic book about the phenomenon. It's called The True Believer and is a short but thoroughly compelling read. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_True_Believer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_True_Believer
- sctb 10y ago
  We don't attack other users like this on Hacker News, no matter how politely you package it up.

Being Christian does not imply being tolerant of tolerant of discrimination, judgement, and torture. Being a Trump supporter does mean giving support to Trump and all he stands for.

Cookingboy 10y ago

>Being a Trump supporter does mean giving support to Trump and all he stands for It means at least you put other things at higher priority than discrimination, torture, and promotion of violence and hatred and you are willing to at least ignore those. In my eyes, that's simply not acceptable. We aren't talking about economical policies or debate on tax laws here, we are talking about basic human decency.

ElEmEnOhP 10y ago
How is that any different than Clinton? She's talked about 'droning' people who oppose her viewpoints.
- Cookingboy 10y ago
  Please show me verified proof where she publicly threatened violence or jail time or like you claimed, drone strike against her political opponents (they definitely oppose her viewpoints).
  - alain_gilbert 10y ago
    https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=can%27t+we+just+drone+this+guy https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&e...
s_m_t 10y ago
But being the secretary of state of the administration that assassinates US citizens without trial (including a 16 year old US citizen) and laughing on television about a world leader being killed and sodomized with knives by a mob on television is acceptable? We are all complicit in this madness. You should fire everyone and then fire yourself.
- Cookingboy 10y ago
  Clinton did not order nor promote sodomizing a "world leader" (a brutal dictator, you made it sound like he's an elected leader from a democracy or something). The killing of the U.S. national without trial was done due to such individual's action. There was no condemnation of violence toward a large group of people due to racism or sexism. The world is obviously not perfect, but you can't use that as the basis of argument for "everything and everyone is just as bad as each other and things cannot possibly be worse".
  - s_m_t 10y ago
    No, she just helped destabilize the country until he was killed and sodomized. And then laughed about it, on television. Surely this was the administrations intention all along. Of course they didn't expect him to be sodomized but as long as he died one way or another I really doubt they cared. Of course, now Libya is still embroiled in civil war. The point is that there are legitimate reasons to support Trump over Hillary that don't involve someone being a racist, sexist, bigot. The world definitely isn't perfect and we have two (major) candidates to choose from that make a lot of reasonable people on both 'sides' existentially concerned about the future of the republic. I agree with your concerns about Trump. I just think Hillary is even scarier, especially because a lot of the type of people who would protest and politically mobilize against the actions I think she might take support her.
DougN7 10y ago
> t means at least you put other things at higher priority than discrimination, torture, and promotion of violence and hatred and you are willing to at least ignore those. Oh please... You're not being intellectually honest.

Hannan 10y ago

As someone who leans heavily Democrat, I disagree. There are many Trump "supporters" who just extremely dislike/disagree with Clinton. That doesn't mean they back "all he stands for" much as I don't personally back the separate email server, HRC's coziness with Wall Street, etc. We have a two party system. Support doesn't indicate 100% alignment.

eberkund 10y ago

>Being a Trump supporter does mean giving support to Trump and all he stands for. No it doesn't, since when does supporting a particular political candidate mean that you think they are the epitome of perfection? It simply means that you believe said candidate to be marginally better on the issues you care about, than the next most likely candidate to win the election.

Ar-Curunir 10y ago

Surprisingly, it does not mean that; it means that you prefer some of Trump's policies (whatever those might be) to Hillary's corresponding policies.

obstacle1 10y ago

I'm fascinated by the histories of rigidly black-and-white, mentally disadvantaged thinkers. How do they arrive at their bizarre positions? Not even from an immediate train of logic perspective, but from a life perspective. Some chain of events led to that bizarre, defective brain state which produces such strange, incoherent thoughts; what events constituted that chain? Could you tell us a bit about where you're from, how you grew up, whether or not you attended school, etc.? I think a little insight could help us all to be more tolerant of those with limited reasoning abilities.

Turing_Machine 10y ago
Eric Hoffer wrote a classic book about the phenomenon. It's called The True Believer and is a short but thoroughly compelling read. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_True_Believer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_True_Believer
sctb 10y ago
We don't attack other users like this on Hacker News, no matter how politely you package it up.