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Replacing "black" with "all" in the statement "black lives matter" reveals an astounding lack of knowledge of history. I'm not sure if it's racist. Maybe 'tot

by poshli 10y ago

Replacing "black" with "all" in the statement "black lives matter" reveals an astounding lack of knowledge of history. I'm not sure if it's racist. Maybe 'totally ignorant'? I hope the totally ignorant are on a different team.

dudul 10y ago
Assuming that you are right, is ignoring history valid ground for termination?
- tveita 10y ago
  Irrelevant to the discussed case. When you start vandalizing posters at work it is no longer a case of just "ignoring history".
  - dudul 10y ago
    I think for this specific case it wasn't a vandalized poster, but some writing on a blackboard that was simply replaced. I've seen that at a few startups, the black/white board where everybody should feel free to write whatever, or draw a doodle. Would you care to answer assuming that it wasn't a case of vandalism?
    - tveita 10y ago
      > Would you care to answer assuming that it wasn't a case of vandalism? No, I don't want to spend more time chasing an increasingly stretched hypothetical that is being made to defend what would be asshole behaviour at the best of times. I can't find a statement threatening to fire anyone, but the message I've seen says "Despite my clear communication at Q&A last week that this was unacceptable, and messages from several other leaders from across the company, this has happened again. I was already very disappointed by this disrespectful behavior before, but after my communication I now consider this malicious as well." If your boss tells you to stop doing something at work and you keep doing it then yes, that can get you fired, no matter if it's singing Ave Maria or throwing rhetoric against a civil rights movement.
Lawtonfogle 10y ago
I know a Hispanic girl who says all lives matter. She is fed up with how the common narative is that only Blacks are people of color. Is she ignorant? And before someone says I'm sexist for using girl instead of woman, she isn't 18 yet.
andrei_says_ 10y ago
Let's not forget the silent ", too." At the end of the statement. Black lives matter, too. Please stop executing us, jailing us, abusing us, beating us, underpaying us, stereotyping us. We deserve the safety, humane treatment and respect for basic rights that are already available to others. Hope that clarifies the statement for anyone who still feels/wants to feel confused or outraged by the exclusivity.
- getreal123 10y ago
  "We" can certainly try. In return, will "you" try to stop committing rapes, murders, violent assaults, and robberies in vastly disproportionate numbers?

by poshli 10y ago

dudul 10y ago

Assuming that you are right, is ignoring history valid ground for termination?

tveita 10y ago
Irrelevant to the discussed case. When you start vandalizing posters at work it is no longer a case of just "ignoring history".
- dudul 10y ago
  I think for this specific case it wasn't a vandalized poster, but some writing on a blackboard that was simply replaced. I've seen that at a few startups, the black/white board where everybody should feel free to write whatever, or draw a doodle. Would you care to answer assuming that it wasn't a case of vandalism?
  - tveita 10y ago
    > Would you care to answer assuming that it wasn't a case of vandalism? No, I don't want to spend more time chasing an increasingly stretched hypothetical that is being made to defend what would be asshole behaviour at the best of times. I can't find a statement threatening to fire anyone, but the message I've seen says "Despite my clear communication at Q&A last week that this was unacceptable, and messages from several other leaders from across the company, this has happened again. I was already very disappointed by this disrespectful behavior before, but after my communication I now consider this malicious as well." If your boss tells you to stop doing something at work and you keep doing it then yes, that can get you fired, no matter if it's singing Ave Maria or throwing rhetoric against a civil rights movement.

Lawtonfogle 10y ago

I know a Hispanic girl who says all lives matter. She is fed up with how the common narative is that only Blacks are people of color. Is she ignorant? And before someone says I'm sexist for using girl instead of woman, she isn't 18 yet.

andrei_says_ 10y ago

Let's not forget the silent ", too." At the end of the statement. Black lives matter, too. Please stop executing us, jailing us, abusing us, beating us, underpaying us, stereotyping us. We deserve the safety, humane treatment and respect for basic rights that are already available to others. Hope that clarifies the statement for anyone who still feels/wants to feel confused or outraged by the exclusivity.

getreal123 10y ago
"We" can certainly try. In return, will "you" try to stop committing rapes, murders, violent assaults, and robberies in vastly disproportionate numbers?