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PyDev Python IDE: code completion, integrated documentation, debugging

32 points by jules 17y ago

ez77 17y ago
Has anybody been able to set up PyDev for Google's App Engine? I went through http://alishabdar.com/2009/05/06/develop-google-appengine-with-aptana-studio/ http://alishabdar.com/2009/05/06/develop-google-appengine-wi... and the official tutorial, but it keeps giving me errors about the VERSION of the App Engine. (Sorry, I don't have the exact error handy.) Thank you, Eclipsed
- jules 17y ago
  I haven't used Google App Engine, but I did notice that in the newest version of PyDev there are two new project types (Django Project and App Engine project). To create special project type for App Engine: File > New > Project > PyDev Google App Engine Project. This is not mentioned in that tutorial, so maybe that wasn't available at the time.
  - jules 17y ago
    Tried App Engine. Was very easy to setup. Here are the steps I took: 1) Download App Engine for Linux and unpack it 2) Start PyDev and make an App Engine project 3) When it asks you for the App Engine directory, point it to the directory you unpacked in step 1 4) Select "Hello webapp world" as the template 5) Right click the src folder, then run as "PyDev: Google App Run" 6) Browse to localhost:8080 and view your hello world app Let me know if this worked for you :)
    - ez77 17y ago
      Thanks for the tips, jules! I will try this following your instructions and let you and HN at large how it went.
    - ez77 17y ago
      Yikes! I keep getting the same errors: Allow dev_appserver to check for updates on startup? (Y/n): ERROR 2010-04-18 16:51:50,678 appcfg.py:195] Could not find version file at /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/google/../VERSION ERROR 2010-04-18 16:51:50,678 appcfg.py:195] Could not find version file at /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/google/../VERSION INFO 2010-04-18 16:51:50,679 appengine_rpc.py:159] Server: appengine.google.com ERROR 2010-04-18 16:51:50,679 appcfg.py:195] Could not find version file at /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/google/../VERSION ERROR 2010-04-18 16:51:50,679 appcfg.py:327] Could not determine if the SDK supports the api_version requested in app.yaml.
      - jules 17y ago
        What did you answer to "Allow dev_appserver to check for updates on startup? (Y/n)"? I answered "n". Also, why is it looking for files in /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/google/../VERSION? I don't have that file either, but I put the app engine dir in my home dir and that worked.
        ez77 17y ago
        I didn't really have the choice to reply... I got all of this as a lumped error message. (I'm not used to Eclipse, to be honest, so I may be getting lost in that maze with some simple setting.)
        jules 17y ago
        That's strange. I was able to type in the output window and press enter. Maybe you should ask on the PyDev forums or file a bug report.
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d0m 17y ago
This is great. Sadly, I can't stand Eclipse anymore. I have used it for a years and I was happy to let it go for a real editor. I know some plugins are really great, but Eclipse per se is a big laggy thing without consistency. For example: - Themes are really hacky and only works on some windows - Editor are clearly bad (delete a line, delete to the end of X, go to the next ", and the fact that some editor support some hotkeys, while others dont) - Documentation = extremely bad, enough said about that - Configurations are scattered everywhere without consistency. But hey, that's the problem with plugins and over-customization, it quickly becomes a mess. But still, sorry for my hate comment.. It is probably because I'm sad that such a great tools (PyDev) has been made on a crappy thing that I hate (Eclipse) :(
- jules 17y ago
  Yeah, true. Emacs also has this problem, but much worse ;) Do you really need all those customizations? PyDev + something to manage your version control of choice works for me. BTW, I do have shortcuts for deleting a line Ctrl+D. Here is a good reference: http://pydev.org/manual_adv_keybindings.html http://pydev.org/manual_adv_keybindings.html Also has keys for navigating Python code: next class, next method, go to definition, etc.
urlwolf 17y ago
Pycharm beats this. I get the big news here is that the whole thing is open source now. The debugger in pycharm is great. I can't stand eclipse because there's no way to do softwrap (!). That means you cannot ust split windows, and that's the end of productivity for me.
- danielh 17y ago
  To be precise, the formerly closed source commercial PyDev extensions have been merged into PyDev, which was always open source and still is. That is great news and I almost missed that point. Thanks for pointing it out!
tzury 17y ago
Yet again a prove that no matter how slick and shiny the UI is, VIM will remain seated on the Throne. If you like working with the mouse, consider spyder instead. http://groups.google.com/group/spyderlib http://groups.google.com/group/spyderlib
samratjp 17y ago
If eclipse were designed by TextMate guys, my eyes would feel a lot less sore. TextMate is a fine app for django. I wanted to see what all the fuss from the Rails camp about TextMate and it was worth a shot.
fauigerzigerk 17y ago
I used PyDev for a while. It's pretty good, but there's one bug that irritated me no and and it hasn't been resolved in years. The red squiggly line that indicates syntax errors will stick long after the error has been corrected.

32 points by jules 17y ago

ez77 17y ago

Has anybody been able to set up PyDev for Google's App Engine? I went through http://alishabdar.com/2009/05/06/develop-google-appengine-with-aptana-studio/ http://alishabdar.com/2009/05/06/develop-google-appengine-wi... and the official tutorial, but it keeps giving me errors about the VERSION of the App Engine. (Sorry, I don't have the exact error handy.) Thank you, Eclipsed

jules 17y ago
I haven't used Google App Engine, but I did notice that in the newest version of PyDev there are two new project types (Django Project and App Engine project). To create special project type for App Engine: File > New > Project > PyDev Google App Engine Project. This is not mentioned in that tutorial, so maybe that wasn't available at the time.
- jules 17y ago
  Tried App Engine. Was very easy to setup. Here are the steps I took: 1) Download App Engine for Linux and unpack it 2) Start PyDev and make an App Engine project 3) When it asks you for the App Engine directory, point it to the directory you unpacked in step 1 4) Select "Hello webapp world" as the template 5) Right click the src folder, then run as "PyDev: Google App Run" 6) Browse to localhost:8080 and view your hello world app Let me know if this worked for you :)
  - ez77 17y ago
    Thanks for the tips, jules! I will try this following your instructions and let you and HN at large how it went.
  - ez77 17y ago
    Yikes! I keep getting the same errors: Allow dev_appserver to check for updates on startup? (Y/n): ERROR 2010-04-18 16:51:50,678 appcfg.py:195] Could not find version file at /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/google/../VERSION ERROR 2010-04-18 16:51:50,678 appcfg.py:195] Could not find version file at /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/google/../VERSION INFO 2010-04-18 16:51:50,679 appengine_rpc.py:159] Server: appengine.google.com ERROR 2010-04-18 16:51:50,679 appcfg.py:195] Could not find version file at /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/google/../VERSION ERROR 2010-04-18 16:51:50,679 appcfg.py:327] Could not determine if the SDK supports the api_version requested in app.yaml.
    - jules 17y ago
      What did you answer to "Allow dev_appserver to check for updates on startup? (Y/n)"? I answered "n". Also, why is it looking for files in /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/google/../VERSION? I don't have that file either, but I put the app engine dir in my home dir and that worked.
      - ez77 17y ago
        I didn't really have the choice to reply... I got all of this as a lumped error message. (I'm not used to Eclipse, to be honest, so I may be getting lost in that maze with some simple setting.)
        jules 17y ago
        That's strange. I was able to type in the output window and press enter. Maybe you should ask on the PyDev forums or file a bug report.
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d0m 17y ago

This is great. Sadly, I can't stand Eclipse anymore. I have used it for a years and I was happy to let it go for a real editor. I know some plugins are really great, but Eclipse per se is a big laggy thing without consistency. For example: - Themes are really hacky and only works on some windows - Editor are clearly bad (delete a line, delete to the end of X, go to the next ", and the fact that some editor support some hotkeys, while others dont) - Documentation = extremely bad, enough said about that - Configurations are scattered everywhere without consistency. But hey, that's the problem with plugins and over-customization, it quickly becomes a mess. But still, sorry for my hate comment.. It is probably because I'm sad that such a great tools (PyDev) has been made on a crappy thing that I hate (Eclipse) :(

jules 17y ago
Yeah, true. Emacs also has this problem, but much worse ;) Do you really need all those customizations? PyDev + something to manage your version control of choice works for me. BTW, I do have shortcuts for deleting a line Ctrl+D. Here is a good reference: http://pydev.org/manual_adv_keybindings.html http://pydev.org/manual_adv_keybindings.html Also has keys for navigating Python code: next class, next method, go to definition, etc.

urlwolf 17y ago

Pycharm beats this. I get the big news here is that the whole thing is open source now. The debugger in pycharm is great. I can't stand eclipse because there's no way to do softwrap (!). That means you cannot ust split windows, and that's the end of productivity for me.

danielh 17y ago
To be precise, the formerly closed source commercial PyDev extensions have been merged into PyDev, which was always open source and still is. That is great news and I almost missed that point. Thanks for pointing it out!

tzury 17y ago

Yet again a prove that no matter how slick and shiny the UI is, VIM will remain seated on the Throne. If you like working with the mouse, consider spyder instead. http://groups.google.com/group/spyderlib http://groups.google.com/group/spyderlib

samratjp 17y ago

If eclipse were designed by TextMate guys, my eyes would feel a lot less sore. TextMate is a fine app for django. I wanted to see what all the fuss from the Rails camp about TextMate and it was worth a shot.

fauigerzigerk 17y ago

I used PyDev for a while. It's pretty good, but there's one bug that irritated me no and and it hasn't been resolved in years. The red squiggly line that indicates syntax errors will stick long after the error has been corrected.