> For one, in the last year or so, the "sex appeal" of financial stability has shot up drastically. Yes. And financial stability can be reached in two ways. Ei

> For one, in the last year or so, the "sex appeal" of financial stability has shot up drastically. Yes. And financial stability can be reached in two ways. Either by making more money, or reducing your expenses. It used to cost about 250k to raise a child to 18, not even considering college expenses. Wouldn't your friends be just as financially stable, if not more so, if they didn't have kids? > Here's a thing you should do. Add gender to each of your sentences: "If a woman lacks any of the skills to be good in a relationship (whether from lack of practice or inclination), she's not going to be a good partner, and she shouldn't expect a good partner." and then invert it: "If a man lacks any of the skills to be good in a relationship (whether from lack of practice or inclination), he's not going to be a good partner, and he shouldn't expect a good partner." Completely agree. However, that's what the MGTOW is doing. "Hey, it takes a certain kind of guy to have a good relationship these days, and it's going to require hard work on my end and sacrifice. I'm just going to not do that, and not inflict my crappy self on other people"