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It's only selfish in the same sense that people call suicide "selfish." It's a decision for personal behavior, that societal attitudes say do not meet their ob
by forgottenpass 10y ago
It's only selfish in the same sense that people call suicide "selfish."
It's a decision for personal behavior, that societal attitudes say do not meet their obligations to the rest of humanity.
But describing what exactly someone's obligations to humanity are gets a bit muddy when you're talking about it, even at the point of positively positing that they may exist (rather than only talking about them when someone fails to meet them by killing themselves).
- AnimalMuppet 10y agoNo, I didn't mean it in that sense at all. Let us agree, for purposes of this discussion, that they have no obligation to anyone, either to individuals or to society as a whole. Their decision is not "selfish" in the sense of "not meeting their obligations to others". But, from the article, "Most MGTOW will tell you it’s more of a philosophy than a movement, punctuated with a serious helping of ZFG (“zero fucks given”). MGTOW are unapologetically selfish..." That's selfish in a different sense - I'm going to make my decisions in a way that cares only about myself, and deliberately avoids any circumstance that might lead to me caring about anyone else. Why does that not lead to happiness? After all, I get to make all my own decisions purely for my own benefit. But it turns out that happiness largely comes from being close to a few other people, mattering to them and having them matter to you.