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While I wouldn't go full MTGOW, I guess I see where these guys are coming from as a collegiate 20-something; the economics of serious long-term romantic relatio
by wyager 10y ago
While I wouldn't go full MTGOW, I guess I see where these guys are coming from as a collegiate 20-something; the economics of serious long-term romantic relationships are kind of unfavorable right now. Men lose a lot of autonomy in most relationships in my peer group (e.g. no more wild parties, more limited free time, many feel obligated to bring their partner to social events even if their partner is not in the relevant social group, etc.). On the other hand, there is not much to gain; sex is easily accessible even without being in a long-term relationship, and with much lower cost and effort. Emotional fulfillment, to whatever degree that applies, usually isn't a sufficient incentive.
Children are extremely difficult for both men and women; they are a huge expense, and raising one without a dedicated caretaker is practically very difficult. Most of my peer group in serious long-term relationships, even those married and around traditional child-rearing ages, seem to be quite confident that they won't have children.
I think we will see a serious social restructuring around family life, but it's not yet clear to me how that will look.
- RangerScience 10y agoYou need a different peer group. Then again, in a recent accounting, I noticed that most of my friends are or have been poly. I'm not saying my life is normal. I am saying that my peer group isn't losing much autonomy to their relationships, even the monogamous ones; it's possible I'm already seeing the social restructuring you're expecting. (Or, one potential restructuring).