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i believe a lot of it is lifted from AA meetings he attended. i remember reading an interview with a few of the fellow attendees who seemed a little miffed that
by dilap 10y ago
i believe a lot of it is lifted from AA meetings he attended. i remember reading an interview with a few of the fellow attendees who seemed a little miffed that he'd taken their stories.
but beware! that's what happens when you're around a writer.
IJ is by far my all-time favorite book. just amazing.
(though the tech and math parts are cringe-worthy!)
- ethanbond 10y agoHow are they cringe-worthy? The tech stuff especially is incredibly prescient, considering when it was written.
- dilap 10y agohe nailed the social factors, but his attempt to describe the mean-value theorem was incoherent, and his attempts at cyber-punky computer descriptions i found to be basically mimicking language without a deep understanding, resulting in something somewhat ridiculous. i think stuff by e. g. william gibson from even earlier still holds up, so it's not just a "oh, time passed him by" thing. apparently the book originally had much more of a cyber-punk bent, and his editor convinced him to trim most of that out, which has got to be one of the all-time great wins in editing.
- pklausler 10y agoDon't make the mistake of confusing the text in Infinite Jest with David Foster Wallace's actual understanding of the Mean Value Theorem. (Read Everything and More, his really awesome book on the mathematical history of calculus, if you need a demonstration.)
- dilap 10y agoperhaps. but it was in a footnote that seemed to be in the author's voice, rather than some sort of pov garbling. i've been skeptical yet intrigued by everything & more since forever; will definitely have to pick it up at some point.
- SnacksOnAPlane 10y agoIIRC it was Pemulis who was explaining it.
- pklausler 10y ago99% of writers would never consider mentioning a theorem of the calculus in a novel; of those who would, 99% would think it was important to get the details right, either to show off or to avoid criticism. And then there's Wallace.
- filoeleven 10y agoNot only did he lift their stories, in many cases he didn't even bother to change names. One person he wrote about, who was a friend of his and a fellow author, told his agent as much before IJ was published and strongly suggested he change the names, but no action was taken.
- filoeleven 10y agoNot only did he lift their stories, in many cases he didn't even bother to change names. One person he wrote about, who was a friend of his and a fellow author, told his agent as much before IJ was published and strongly suggested he change the names, but no action was taken.