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I just recently heard of Obama's position you're referring to, and I had a different interpretation. "Rigged" means a coordinated and malicious manipulation -
by e1g 10y ago
I just recently heard of Obama's position you're referring to, and I had a different interpretation.
"Rigged" means a coordinated and malicious manipulation - this is something that before Trump no one had claimed (the GOP or otherwise). "Flawed", or even "fraud", is more subtle - for example, an electoral administrator miscounting votes due to strange patriotism, lack of training, indifference, or excessive partisanship.
I saw Obama's point as being rooted in "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence", and that actually rigging the election in the US (and getting away with it) is a lot more complex than it seems on surface. Sort of like faking the moon landing.
- TheGirondin 10y ago>"Rigged" means a coordinated and malicious manipulation - this is something that before Trump no one had claimed (the GOP or otherwise). There were (and still are) wide spread claims that Republicans outright stole the results of the 2004 election in Ohio, going all the way to John Kerry himself. http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/12/21/negotiating-the-whirlwind http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/12/21/negotiating-the... Refusing to accept election losses has been a hallmark of Democrats in the last 20 years. They refuse to accept the 2000 election, said that Republicans stole the state of OH in 2004, and even now claim that the current Republican majorities in both the House and Senate are the result of "gerrymandering."
- camiller 10y ago"this is something that before Trump no one had claimed (the GOP or otherwise)" Except when Democrats claimed Bush stole the election. Otherwise no one has ever...