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> Who campaign and are elected on issues totally unrelated Should politicians refuse to do anything that was not in their campaign leaflets? > For example if

> Who campaign and are elected on issues totally unrelated Should politicians refuse to do anything that was not in their campaign leaflets? > For example if I walked around in my office among 20 ... Try it out. In my opinion, this is a very unlikely hypothetical. I'm from a country that is not a member of the ESA - never met a person yet that doesn't know what it is, or stands for. Rosetta in particular caused a lot of excitement, it was on the news a lot, people were following ESA and the lander's accounts on Twitter etc.

rubber_duck 10y ago
>Should politicians refuse to do anything that was not in their campaign leaflets? No - my point is there is no pressure to improve PR because it's not a voting issue for the people deciding it's funding in EU. >In my opinion, this is a very unlikely hypothetical. Just asked 4 next to my desk - only one knew what "ESA" stands for, expected since he's in to that kind of thing - don't feel like disturbing more people :)
coldtea 10y ago
>Should politicians refuse to do anything that was not in their campaign leaflets? It would be great, yes. They could also ask the public anew when such a thing emerges... >In my opinion, this is a very unlikely hypothetical. I'm from a country that is not a member of the ESA - never met a person yet that doesn't know what it is, or stands for. For real? Where did you ask, inside the ESA headquarters? The average EU citizen has absolutely no idea what ESA is or does.
- merraksh 10y ago
  The average EU citizen has absolutely no idea what ESA is or does. Source? a good percentage of the people I know from Europe does. >Should politicians refuse to do anything that was not in their campaign leaflets? It would be great, yes. They should refuse to do anything that was against (or far from what was in) their program. Leaflets hardly reflect all of a candidate's program.
  - coldtea 10y ago
    >Source? a good percentage of the people I know from Europe does. Well, I don't just know people from Europe, I am from Europe. Computer programmers and geeky types are not representative of the general population. >They should refuse to do anything that was against (or far from what was in) their program. Leaflets hardly reflect all of a candidate's program. Maybe they should though? Why allow for non approved/requested by the public policy changes that they come up on their own? Even better, ask in a direct democratic way for anything not in the program (yeah, within reason -- they could do trivial things and directing).
    - summarite 10y ago
      Vast majority of Europeans are aware and in favour of European space programmes, although they don't necessarily know all the details/names/impacts. Maybe if the two of you had actually looked for a source rather than argued you'd have found that yourself.. https://ec.europa.eu/growth/sectors/space_en https://ec.europa.eu/growth/sectors/space_en (Scroll down to documents - the two eurobarometers)
  - merraksh 10y ago
    >Source? a good percentage of the people I know from Europe does. Well, I don't just know people from Europe, I am from Europe. Me too. My "Source?" question is still standing. Computer programmers and geeky types are not representative of the general population. That's not the people I referred to when talking of who knows about ESA. >They should refuse to do anything that was against (or far from what was in) their program. Leaflets hardly reflect all of a candidate's program. Maybe they should though? Why allow for non approved/requested by the public policy changes that they come up on their own? Leaflets are small pieces of information that are supposed to be simple and direct. Do you expect details on NASA funding in an A5 piece of papers that barely contains a face and a slogan (and perhaps a few phone numbers and a Twitter handle)? Even better, ask in a direct democratic way for anything not in the program (yeah, within reason -- they could do trivial things and directing). Ask any political scientist why this is not a good idea.
    - 10y ago

rubber_duck 10y ago

>Should politicians refuse to do anything that was not in their campaign leaflets? No - my point is there is no pressure to improve PR because it's not a voting issue for the people deciding it's funding in EU. >In my opinion, this is a very unlikely hypothetical. Just asked 4 next to my desk - only one knew what "ESA" stands for, expected since he's in to that kind of thing - don't feel like disturbing more people :)

coldtea 10y ago

>Should politicians refuse to do anything that was not in their campaign leaflets? It would be great, yes. They could also ask the public anew when such a thing emerges... >In my opinion, this is a very unlikely hypothetical. I'm from a country that is not a member of the ESA - never met a person yet that doesn't know what it is, or stands for. For real? Where did you ask, inside the ESA headquarters? The average EU citizen has absolutely no idea what ESA is or does.

merraksh 10y ago
The average EU citizen has absolutely no idea what ESA is or does. Source? a good percentage of the people I know from Europe does. >Should politicians refuse to do anything that was not in their campaign leaflets? It would be great, yes. They should refuse to do anything that was against (or far from what was in) their program. Leaflets hardly reflect all of a candidate's program.
- coldtea 10y ago
  >Source? a good percentage of the people I know from Europe does. Well, I don't just know people from Europe, I am from Europe. Computer programmers and geeky types are not representative of the general population. >They should refuse to do anything that was against (or far from what was in) their program. Leaflets hardly reflect all of a candidate's program. Maybe they should though? Why allow for non approved/requested by the public policy changes that they come up on their own? Even better, ask in a direct democratic way for anything not in the program (yeah, within reason -- they could do trivial things and directing).
  - summarite 10y ago
    Vast majority of Europeans are aware and in favour of European space programmes, although they don't necessarily know all the details/names/impacts. Maybe if the two of you had actually looked for a source rather than argued you'd have found that yourself.. https://ec.europa.eu/growth/sectors/space_en https://ec.europa.eu/growth/sectors/space_en (Scroll down to documents - the two eurobarometers)
- merraksh 10y ago
  >Source? a good percentage of the people I know from Europe does. Well, I don't just know people from Europe, I am from Europe. Me too. My "Source?" question is still standing. Computer programmers and geeky types are not representative of the general population. That's not the people I referred to when talking of who knows about ESA. >They should refuse to do anything that was against (or far from what was in) their program. Leaflets hardly reflect all of a candidate's program. Maybe they should though? Why allow for non approved/requested by the public policy changes that they come up on their own? Leaflets are small pieces of information that are supposed to be simple and direct. Do you expect details on NASA funding in an A5 piece of papers that barely contains a face and a slogan (and perhaps a few phone numbers and a Twitter handle)? Even better, ask in a direct democratic way for anything not in the program (yeah, within reason -- they could do trivial things and directing). Ask any political scientist why this is not a good idea.
  - 10y ago