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The Clinton campaign has been really effective with timing related to Assange events. The Trump sexual video was released immediately following a wiki leaks dum

by Taek 10y ago

The Clinton campaign has been really effective with timing related to Assange events. The Trump sexual video was released immediately following a wiki leaks dump. It's pretty clear that they are happy to play dirty, and have planned out moves like these.

notahacker 10y ago
Yeah, because creating new and more far-fetched allegations about a minor player like Assange's totally unblemished reputation and making the week's news cycle all about ClintonLeaks is obviously far more important to her Presidential campaign than using those techniques to undermine, say, the idea that Mike Pence might be a quite safe and steady running mate for Trump.
- Taek 10y ago
  The DNC has hundreds of millions of dollars driving their campaign. There's no reason that they can't fight on all fronts at once. The wikileaks vs. Trump leaks move has basically destroyed Trump's campaign. It was a fantastic move on their part, whatever calculus went in to their timing.
  - notahacker 10y ago
    My point is they have no reason to want to waste their dollars getting Assange and ClintonLeaks more press at all, and if they're fighting that dirty, every reason to want Pence - who isn't the subject of any major allegations - to get some bad press. Or for the public to continue to lap up the latest Trump mishaps and not pay as much attention to the Podesta emails as Wikileaks would like. But we're supposed to believe they have instead chosen to focus their efforts in keeping Assange in the press through the most obviously implausible setup possible, in a way which might cast doubt on two already very well-publicised and widely-believed allegations about Assange. And use their setup vehicle to issue press releases on the subject of obscure rulings by UN-affiliated bodies regarding Assange's detention and blog about "state-level interference", because obviously these are subjects that are the day-to-day obsession of Hillary Clinton, and not Assange and his supporters. Well, if Wikileaks says it was the Clinton campaign, it must be true.
FireBeyond 10y ago
Is it playing dirty to use "strategically timed leaks" to combat "strategically timed leaks" now? What a curious double standard you have.
- Taek 10y ago
  I never said that Assange wasn't playing dirty.

by Taek 10y ago

notahacker 10y ago

Yeah, because creating new and more far-fetched allegations about a minor player like Assange's totally unblemished reputation and making the week's news cycle all about ClintonLeaks is obviously far more important to her Presidential campaign than using those techniques to undermine, say, the idea that Mike Pence might be a quite safe and steady running mate for Trump.

Taek 10y ago
The DNC has hundreds of millions of dollars driving their campaign. There's no reason that they can't fight on all fronts at once. The wikileaks vs. Trump leaks move has basically destroyed Trump's campaign. It was a fantastic move on their part, whatever calculus went in to their timing.
- notahacker 10y ago
  My point is they have no reason to want to waste their dollars getting Assange and ClintonLeaks more press at all, and if they're fighting that dirty, every reason to want Pence - who isn't the subject of any major allegations - to get some bad press. Or for the public to continue to lap up the latest Trump mishaps and not pay as much attention to the Podesta emails as Wikileaks would like. But we're supposed to believe they have instead chosen to focus their efforts in keeping Assange in the press through the most obviously implausible setup possible, in a way which might cast doubt on two already very well-publicised and widely-believed allegations about Assange. And use their setup vehicle to issue press releases on the subject of obscure rulings by UN-affiliated bodies regarding Assange's detention and blog about "state-level interference", because obviously these are subjects that are the day-to-day obsession of Hillary Clinton, and not Assange and his supporters. Well, if Wikileaks says it was the Clinton campaign, it must be true.

FireBeyond 10y ago

Is it playing dirty to use "strategically timed leaks" to combat "strategically timed leaks" now? What a curious double standard you have.

Taek 10y ago
I never said that Assange wasn't playing dirty.