Long story short: if you don't have coders who take their product as a matter of personal pride, or are inexperienced, or are mediocre, no methodology in the wo

Long story short: if you don't have coders who take their product as a matter of personal pride, or are inexperienced, or are mediocre, no methodology in the world will save you. None. I realize my statement is anecdotal, but I'm writing from decades of experience working with people who did not take any pride in their work, and still view programming as a trade rather than art, or view programming as an art where "spaghetti code is beautiful". No methodology, no technology, no management technique, and no programming language saved them or the company. The builds are still a mess. The code is still a mess. The bodies of code require endless babysitting and endless hacking.