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One big thing here is that unlike Raspian or derived distros that use its kernel, Fedora is building their own mainline kernel. We're finally getting close to t
by TD-Linux 10y ago
One big thing here is that unlike Raspian or derived distros that use its kernel, Fedora is building their own mainline kernel. We're finally getting close to the day where installing on ARM will be as easy as x86, with no custom kernel or vendor patches.
- pjmlp 10y agoSorry but I doubt it, unless ARM boards start having a standard chipset and vendors don't add their own stuff to ARM designs.
- TD-Linux 10y agoA standard chipset isn't needed - but drivers and a standard way to detect the hardware is. The latter is handled by device trees - a hardware description loaded by the bootloader into memory, alongside the kernel.
- pjmlp 10y agoOk, I have to look into it.
- marcoperaza 10y agoIsn't the boot process itself non-standard in the ARM world?
- rkangel 10y agoYes, but the kernel doesn't need to care about that.
- makomk 10y agoYeah, and all it took was the Raspberry Pi Foundation rolling a series of custom chips with as few hardware improvements since 2011 as possible so as not to set back their mainline support. For most ARM chips where features like better graphics, power management and peripherals matter more, mainline support is still impractical and irrelevant.
- cheiVia0 10y agoLinux mainline is required if you want to have any kind of security support for the Linux kernel.
- webscaleizfun 10y agoThe Raspberry Pi foundation picked a chip they were familiar with as Broadcom employees. I can't fault them for that, but at this point chips like the Allwinner H3 & A series have better support mainlined than the Raspberry Pi 2 & 3. I say this having tried Raspbian & Debian on each platform, and having tried more advanced features (like VC4, which seems to crash my Raspberry Pi 3 after a minute while scraping by & giving me 59fps). I understand the choices they made, but a helpful vendor that incidentally creates a community that then supplants its support would be the ultimate end game, and that is where the sunxi community is at at this point. Perhaps the Raspberry Pi foundation can fix VC4 and get mainline distros to support them, but severe bugs[1] & Raspbian including non-redistributable images[2] have tempered my enthusiasm to spend time on their SBC, as it seems like a hot mess that could drag me down with it into a licensing & bug ridden abyss. [1] - https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/1354 https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/1354 [2] - https://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/56e3vh/has_any_user_of_pixel_actually_read_the_license/ https://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/56e3vh/has_an...