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Millenials don't make much money so your median income statistics are skewed toward younger people who tend more democrat.

by Nydhal 10y ago

knucklesandwich 10y ago
That only (partially) explains the median income for Bernie voters, not Clinton voters: http://graphics.wsj.com/elections/2016/how-clinton-won/ http://graphics.wsj.com/elections/2016/how-clinton-won/ Also I'm not sure why that's important, is your assumption that Millennials don't have legitemate economic anxiety?
- dragonwriter 10y ago
  It's important because while income and class are correlated they aren't the same thing; a young member of the middle class will often have income less than someone well into a working class career. And Clinton supporters in the general election tend to be much younger than Trump supporters. ("Bernie voters" in the primary are, overwhelmingly, Clinton supporters in the general.)
  - knucklesandwich 10y ago
    Class is a set of wealth and income categories (or is in the US anyways, I can't speak for other countries). I'm not sure why you claim they're "correlated". They're literally the same thing.
    - dragonwriter 10y ago
      No, it's not. Income is often used as a proxy for class, but it's not the same thing.
      - knucklesandwich 10y ago
        It seems like your assertion here is that Clinton's supporters skew low income because they're college students being subsidized by their parents and not actual low income workers or unemployed non-dependents. So while your own poll in the other thread basically rejects that by giving the share of voters for family income and not individual income, you still haven't actually given any data to support this. All you've done is tell me I'm wrong about what the definition of class is without an alternate definition. You also haven't done any work towards arguing against the fact that voters for Trump fundamentally don't live in areas with high immigrant populations or where their jobs were moved overseas. In other words the notion that Trump voters support immigration reform and trade protectionism because they have bad run-ins with our current policies on these issues. Face it, Trump voters are bigots.

Millenials don't make much money so your median income statistics are skewed toward younger people who tend more democrat.

by Nydhal 10y ago

Millenials don't make much money so your median income statistics are skewed toward younger people who tend more democrat.

knucklesandwich 10y ago

That only (partially) explains the median income for Bernie voters, not Clinton voters: http://graphics.wsj.com/elections/2016/how-clinton-won/ http://graphics.wsj.com/elections/2016/how-clinton-won/ Also I'm not sure why that's important, is your assumption that Millennials don't have legitemate economic anxiety?

dragonwriter 10y ago
It's important because while income and class are correlated they aren't the same thing; a young member of the middle class will often have income less than someone well into a working class career. And Clinton supporters in the general election tend to be much younger than Trump supporters. ("Bernie voters" in the primary are, overwhelmingly, Clinton supporters in the general.)
- knucklesandwich 10y ago
  Class is a set of wealth and income categories (or is in the US anyways, I can't speak for other countries). I'm not sure why you claim they're "correlated". They're literally the same thing.
  - dragonwriter 10y ago
    No, it's not. Income is often used as a proxy for class, but it's not the same thing.
    - knucklesandwich 10y ago
      It seems like your assertion here is that Clinton's supporters skew low income because they're college students being subsidized by their parents and not actual low income workers or unemployed non-dependents. So while your own poll in the other thread basically rejects that by giving the share of voters for family income and not individual income, you still haven't actually given any data to support this. All you've done is tell me I'm wrong about what the definition of class is without an alternate definition. You also haven't done any work towards arguing against the fact that voters for Trump fundamentally don't live in areas with high immigrant populations or where their jobs were moved overseas. In other words the notion that Trump voters support immigration reform and trade protectionism because they have bad run-ins with our current policies on these issues. Face it, Trump voters are bigots.