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The implication here is that Trump voters are working class people who have been drawn to Trump by virtue of their economic anxiety, concern about loss of their
by knucklesandwich 10y ago
The implication here is that Trump voters are working class people who have been drawn to Trump by virtue of their economic anxiety, concern about loss of their jobs via globalization or immigration, etc. The image in mind is coal or steel workers or industrial factory workers in rust belt cities that have lost their jobs. It's a seductive narrative to Republicans to try to claim the working class, and to classist Democrats to pin Trump on dumb hicks. It's also fundamentally at odds with what all the data tells us.
The first thing that's wrong about this is the assumption that the most economically disenfranchised vote at all. The least financially secure voters have some of the lowest turnout in America, with only about 20% of them voting [1]. These people fundamentally don't vote. The second problem is to try to pretend like Trump actually has a claim on the working class as his base to a greater extent than other candidates. He doesn't [2]. The median income on Trump supporters from the primaries was higher than that of Clinton supporters or Bernie supporters. He also claims a larger take of the wealthiest voters, who compose 9% of his voters in the primary, vs. Clinton and Sanders' 7% and 5% respectively. Fundamentally, his demographic skews more wealthy than the democrats.
A recent gallop survey with a large sample size shows that Trump's base don't live in areas that experience job loss due to companies moving overseas, nor do they live in areas with large immigrant populations [3]. They live in areas that are largely racially segregated (largely white). They have tradecraft jobs like HVAC repairmen, plumber, etc. and live relatively comfortably. Fundamentally though, these people have low exposure to people of color, which might explain their bigotry. Finally, surveys tend to show that Trump voters have a more negative opinion of muslims and people of color [4], which should be of no surprise.
So no, please pedal your "Trump's voters are the economically anxious white workers of America" narrative somewhere else. The truth is that Trump voters are bigots.
[1]: http://www.people-press.org/2015/01/08/the-politics-of-financial-insecurity-a-democratic-tilt-undercut-by-low-participation/ http://www.people-press.org/2015/01/08/the-politics-of-finan...
[2]: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-mythology-of-trumps-working-class-support/ http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-mythology-of-trumps-...
[3]: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2822059 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2822059
[4]: http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/10/15/13286498/donald-trump-voters-race-economic-anxiety http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/10/15/13286498/d...
- Nydhal 10y agoMillenials don't make much money so your median income statistics are skewed toward younger people who tend more democrat.
- knucklesandwich 10y agoThat only (partially) explains the median income for Bernie voters, not Clinton voters: http://graphics.wsj.com/elections/2016/how-clinton-won/ http://graphics.wsj.com/elections/2016/how-clinton-won/ Also I'm not sure why that's important, is your assumption that Millennials don't have legitemate economic anxiety?
- dragonwriter 10y agoIt's important because while income and class are correlated they aren't the same thing; a young member of the middle class will often have income less than someone well into a working class career. And Clinton supporters in the general election tend to be much younger than Trump supporters. ("Bernie voters" in the primary are, overwhelmingly, Clinton supporters in the general.)
- knucklesandwich 10y agoClass is a set of wealth and income categories (or is in the US anyways, I can't speak for other countries). I'm not sure why you claim they're "correlated". They're literally the same thing.
- dragonwriter 10y agoNo, it's not. Income is often used as a proxy for class, but it's not the same thing.
- knucklesandwich 10y agoIt seems like your assertion here is that Clinton's supporters skew low income because they're college students being subsidized by their parents and not actual low income workers or unemployed non-dependents. So while your own poll in the other thread basically rejects that by giving the share of voters for family income and not individual income, you still haven't actually given any data to support this. All you've done is tell me I'm wrong about what the definition of class is without an alternate definition. You also haven't done any work towards arguing against the fact that voters for Trump fundamentally don't live in areas with high immigrant populations or where their jobs were moved overseas. In other words the notion that Trump voters support immigration reform and trade protectionism because they have bad run-ins with our current policies on these issues. Face it, Trump voters are bigots.