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Anyone who ever thought it was the first was deluding themselves. Assange has always has an agenda. It's just that his old supporters don't like the new flavor

Anyone who ever thought it was the first was deluding themselves. Assange has always has an agenda. It's just that his old supporters don't like the new flavor of his Koolaid.

ddorian43 10y ago
What's his agenda ?
- CptJamesCook 10y ago
  In addition to forcing transparency on governments, corporations, and non-profits around the world, I think he would like to secure his own future freedom. It seems highly likely that a Trump administration would give him immunity or a pardon.
dragonwriter 10y ago
OTOH, many of his old Republican enemies who were calling for WikiLeaks to be treated like al-Qaeda love him, for now. And they have a lot more power and influence than the anti-establishment outsiders that were his old supporters, so he's definitely improved his own situation.
- the_watcher 10y ago
  Maybe I've missed it, but most of the coverage and statements from Republicans on this seem to include disclaimers about how irresponsible Assange has been (hard not to when he dumps SSNs), while still happily using whatever red meat they can find.
contingencies 10y ago
If Assange had 'an agenda' (how nebulous) then why would he have been successful at interviewing the world's most cited academic, Noam Chomsky, and other high-level thought and political leaders? What exactly is the 'agenda' he is supposed to have? You are spreading fallacious FUD.
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- marcoperaza 10y ago
  Are you really implying that Chomsky doesn't have an agenda? He's more famous for his political nonsense, e.g. being a far-lefty who supports people like Castro and Chavez, than his actually (very good) linguistics research.
  - contingencies 10y ago
    Yes, I am. Chomsky publishes his research and backs his arguments with innumerable facts, the man is practically a walking encyclopedia of US foreign policy, human rights violations and hypocrisy over the last 100 years. The difference between an academic and someone with an 'agenda' is that one is interested in the truth and publishes cited analyses, the other is only motivated to impress a particular opinion. Chomsky is voted by the global community of academics as a valued member of that community. Against that shadow, your assertions are valueless.
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Anyone who ever thought it was the first was deluding themselves. Assange has always has an agenda. It's just that his old supporters don't like the new flavor of his Koolaid.

ddorian43 10y ago

What's his agenda ?

CptJamesCook 10y ago
In addition to forcing transparency on governments, corporations, and non-profits around the world, I think he would like to secure his own future freedom. It seems highly likely that a Trump administration would give him immunity or a pardon.

dragonwriter 10y ago

OTOH, many of his old Republican enemies who were calling for WikiLeaks to be treated like al-Qaeda love him, for now. And they have a lot more power and influence than the anti-establishment outsiders that were his old supporters, so he's definitely improved his own situation.

the_watcher 10y ago
Maybe I've missed it, but most of the coverage and statements from Republicans on this seem to include disclaimers about how irresponsible Assange has been (hard not to when he dumps SSNs), while still happily using whatever red meat they can find.

contingencies 10y ago

If Assange had 'an agenda' (how nebulous) then why would he have been successful at interviewing the world's most cited academic, Noam Chomsky, and other high-level thought and political leaders? What exactly is the 'agenda' he is supposed to have? You are spreading fallacious FUD.

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marcoperaza 10y ago
Are you really implying that Chomsky doesn't have an agenda? He's more famous for his political nonsense, e.g. being a far-lefty who supports people like Castro and Chavez, than his actually (very good) linguistics research.
- contingencies 10y ago
  Yes, I am. Chomsky publishes his research and backs his arguments with innumerable facts, the man is practically a walking encyclopedia of US foreign policy, human rights violations and hypocrisy over the last 100 years. The difference between an academic and someone with an 'agenda' is that one is interested in the truth and publishes cited analyses, the other is only motivated to impress a particular opinion. Chomsky is voted by the global community of academics as a valued member of that community. Against that shadow, your assertions are valueless.
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