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Sure but costs are rapidly dropping for EVs while house prices continue to climb. I think we're going to see some really interesting things over the next 5-7 y

Sure but costs are rapidly dropping for EVs while house prices continue to climb. I think we're going to see some really interesting things over the next 5-7 years as initial prices come down and operating costs stay low. It's going to squeeze the ICE market from both ends which could put them in a really tough position. I'm reminded of the HDTV market about ~10 years ago when it seems that prices were astronomical. Now you can get a 4k TV for under $300.

sn0v 10y ago
Out of curiosity, what 4k TV model is this? (under 300)
- greendragon 10y ago
  Seiki 4ks have been sub 300 for a while, at least when they're on sale. (e.g. I've been using https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RBA9MOC/ref=psdc_6459737011_t3_B00BXF7I9M https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RBA9MOC/ref=psdc_6459737011_t3_... for over a year as a monitor after applying a beta firmware patch to get rid of the terrible latency. I got it for $298.)
- pixl97 10y ago
  Walmart does carry a few of them https://www.walmart.com/browse/electronics/4k-ultra-hdtvs/3944_1060825_1180168 https://www.walmart.com/browse/electronics/4k-ultra-hdtvs/39... Not saying you should buy from them though.
msandford 10y ago
> I'm reminded of the HDTV market about ~10 years ago when it seems that prices were astronomical. Now you can get a 4k TV for under $300. I'll bite. Cars aren't 90% electronics, but TVs are. If you bought a BMW with everything but the drivetrain, it'd still cost a whole pile of money. Same with a Tesla. Sure the drivetrain might cost 20%-30% of the car's retail price, but even if you bring that to $0 you absolutely haven't made the car 90% cheaper for 5x the product. Just because electronics have a _huge_ NRE (non-recurring engineering) cost and fairly trivial per-unit costs (like software) doesn't mean that the whole world works that way. Metal still costs real money because it takes energy to make/recycle, form, etc.

sn0v 10y ago

Out of curiosity, what 4k TV model is this? (under 300)

greendragon 10y ago
Seiki 4ks have been sub 300 for a while, at least when they're on sale. (e.g. I've been using https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RBA9MOC/ref=psdc_6459737011_t3_B00BXF7I9M https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RBA9MOC/ref=psdc_6459737011_t3_... for over a year as a monitor after applying a beta firmware patch to get rid of the terrible latency. I got it for $298.)
pixl97 10y ago
Walmart does carry a few of them https://www.walmart.com/browse/electronics/4k-ultra-hdtvs/3944_1060825_1180168 https://www.walmart.com/browse/electronics/4k-ultra-hdtvs/39... Not saying you should buy from them though.

msandford 10y ago

> I'm reminded of the HDTV market about ~10 years ago when it seems that prices were astronomical. Now you can get a 4k TV for under $300. I'll bite. Cars aren't 90% electronics, but TVs are. If you bought a BMW with everything but the drivetrain, it'd still cost a whole pile of money. Same with a Tesla. Sure the drivetrain might cost 20%-30% of the car's retail price, but even if you bring that to $0 you absolutely haven't made the car 90% cheaper for 5x the product. Just because electronics have a _huge_ NRE (non-recurring engineering) cost and fairly trivial per-unit costs (like software) doesn't mean that the whole world works that way. Metal still costs real money because it takes energy to make/recycle, form, etc.