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Slowly making laptops less useful. Why not discontinue macbooks altogether and just sell iPads? Oh wait, the same people buy both. If you are still paying re

by gjolund 10y ago

Slowly making laptops less useful. Why not discontinue macbooks altogether and just sell iPads? Oh wait, the same people buy both. If you are still paying retail for macbooks you are an idiot.

alfredxing 10y ago
I can't imagine how one can code productively on an iPad - the environment and ecosystem just isn't there. I'm sure it's just as good, or better, at things like multimedia consumption and entertainment, but a lot of things still require the use of a 'desktop' environment.
- gjolund 10y ago
  Does an overpriced laptop with outdated hardware provide a 'desktop' environment. Yes. Are you wasting your money on branding when you could just install linux on any old computer and be fine. Yes.
  - laurentdc 10y ago
    > Are you wasting your money on branding when you could just install linux on any old computer and be fine. Many developers just don't want to put up with the hassle of installing and maintaining a Linux environment. Just yesterday I've helped a friend installing Arch on a ThinkPad T440s and we almost gave up due to libinput bugs that made the trackpad pretty much unusable (fixed by a few hours of trial and error and then going back to evdev). We still have to get the Intel wifi to work decently. Apparently some glitch with power management doesn't let it achieve full throughput. OS X (and even a clean Windows 10 install in most cases) pretty much work out of the box and let you focus on actual tasks.
    - gjolund 10y ago
      If you are willing to trade a couple thousand dollars for a few hours of work I'm not going to stop you.
      - Haven_Monahan 10y ago
        A few hours of work...on the first day of use. How many more hours of engrossing touchpad driver jiggerypokery will any person need to do over the course of ownership before the cost of their wasted time adds up to the cost of a macbook?
        gjolund 10y ago
        Ubuntu takes 20 mins to install, and I have yet to run into driver issues on any of the 5 machines in my home. I have worked at several VFX studios that used Ubuntu for their workstations. 250+ machines, an absolute joy to manage. I'm sorry you guys have so much trouble, but maybe you should read the docs?

by gjolund 10y ago

Slowly making laptops less useful. Why not discontinue macbooks altogether and just sell iPads? Oh wait, the same people buy both. If you are still paying retail for macbooks you are an idiot.

alfredxing 10y ago

I can't imagine how one can code productively on an iPad - the environment and ecosystem just isn't there. I'm sure it's just as good, or better, at things like multimedia consumption and entertainment, but a lot of things still require the use of a 'desktop' environment.

gjolund 10y ago
Does an overpriced laptop with outdated hardware provide a 'desktop' environment. Yes. Are you wasting your money on branding when you could just install linux on any old computer and be fine. Yes.
- laurentdc 10y ago
  > Are you wasting your money on branding when you could just install linux on any old computer and be fine. Many developers just don't want to put up with the hassle of installing and maintaining a Linux environment. Just yesterday I've helped a friend installing Arch on a ThinkPad T440s and we almost gave up due to libinput bugs that made the trackpad pretty much unusable (fixed by a few hours of trial and error and then going back to evdev). We still have to get the Intel wifi to work decently. Apparently some glitch with power management doesn't let it achieve full throughput. OS X (and even a clean Windows 10 install in most cases) pretty much work out of the box and let you focus on actual tasks.
  - gjolund 10y ago
    If you are willing to trade a couple thousand dollars for a few hours of work I'm not going to stop you.
    - Haven_Monahan 10y ago
      A few hours of work...on the first day of use. How many more hours of engrossing touchpad driver jiggerypokery will any person need to do over the course of ownership before the cost of their wasted time adds up to the cost of a macbook?
      - gjolund 10y ago
        Ubuntu takes 20 mins to install, and I have yet to run into driver issues on any of the 5 machines in my home. I have worked at several VFX studios that used Ubuntu for their workstations. 250+ machines, an absolute joy to manage. I'm sorry you guys have so much trouble, but maybe you should read the docs?