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> It's, "choosing targets for a drone strike." We're talking about the State Department wanting a voice in how we handle people with names like Bin Laden. It d

> It's, "choosing targets for a drone strike." We're talking about the State Department wanting a voice in how we handle people with names like Bin Laden. It does not surprise me at all that they would like to be present for those conversations instead of allowing DOD to act unilaterally. Again, where are you getting names like Julian Assange? > If your standard for whether or not a story has happened is mainstream news coverage, then you and I perceive the world in extremely different ways. Mainstream isn't a curse word. It means they have something to lose by screwing up badly at journalism. True Pundit can print anything it wants. If it comes out that they literally made it up, they can reopen the blog tomorrow under a new name. It is an unknown and untrusted outlet for news. Given the blog's obvious purpose as a serial hit piece against Clinton, it has no more credibility than a blog I spin up tonight called "Bad Stuff I Think Trump Did."

rfrank 10y ago
"We're talking about..." We're also talking about what they were talking about at the time, which includes who specifically to shoot missiles at from a drone. People with names like Obama say people with names like al-Awlaki, among others. People with names like Clinton say people with names like Assange, among others. I get the name Assange from the allegations of State Department employees. Mainstream also means collusion with Democrats. Want me to link the several hundred correspondence between reporters and various DNC/HRC campaign staff that have been leaked in the last couple weeks? Or do you actually believe that's a real thing even though it's not heavily reported on?
- etjossem 10y ago
  > I get the name Assange from the allegations of State Department employees. You get the name Assange from the allegations of a previously-unknown and untrusted conservative blog which does nothing of substance other than regularly attack Clinton. Forget FOX News - even Drudge Report refuses to touch this, and that is very telling. Not all journalism is created equal, and it is nothing short of gullible to take such thinly-vetted sources on faith.
  - rfrank 10y ago
    replying to your most recent comment: 1. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/03/will-wikileaks-assange-delay-october-surprise-announcement.html# http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/03/will-wikileaks-as... 2. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-11/how-julian-assange-turned-wikileaks-into-trump-s-best-friend https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-11/how-julia... 3. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/05/hillary_clinton_i_dont_recall_ever_wanting_to_launch_a_drone_strike_at_wikileaks.html http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/05/hillary_cl... 4. http://www.torontosun.com/2016/10/03/hillary-clinton-suggested-taking-out-wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-with-drone-report http://www.torontosun.com/2016/10/03/hillary-clinton-suggest... 5. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/04/as-clinton-recovers-in-polls-trust-issue-simmers/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10... i even included a blog.amazon.com link just for you sugar. SOURCE SO FAKE.
    - etjossem 10y ago
      Most of these stories are about the fact that WikiLeaks retweeted True Pundit. Importantly, none of them are talking to the source. Were I the source, I would take these articles for what they are - invitations to give my message a broader and more legitimate reach. Unless, of course, I am also the author of True Pundit and I know they will see through me before I even get an interview.
  - rfrank 10y ago
    it's cute watching you continually edit your posts. why do you think "it's fake" is the only logical conclusion to someone not stepping forward as the source of the leak from within the state dept? surely it's not because they fear a response from "the most transparent administration in history" who just so happens to have prosecuted more people under the espionage act than all other presidents combined. or how people like seth rich ended up.
    - etjossem 10y ago
      Why do you think "it's real" is the only logical conclusion to a quote appearing in a right-wing hit blog and nowhere else? It is a weighty accusation which should be taken with healthy skepticism rather than on faith. In the absence of any sort of journalistic integrity behind the outlet, I'm more inclined to believe it's a play for clicks and outrage.
- rfrank 10y ago
  @etjossem My source is too small for you. Your sources are too guilty of collusion for me. I'm not going to wait for Amazon's clickbait/advertorial farm to tell me something is true or not. Think it's a coincidence that WaPo has won almost nothing since Bezos took over? Not all journalism is created equal indeed.
  - etjossem 10y ago
    Your source is fake. Your source is so fake that not even known alt-right bastions are willing to risk their names on it. When it appears in Breitbart, we'll talk.
    - rfrank 10y ago
      your question gets an answer when you answer mine. write your whole thought out at once, learn to proofread. i'm not going to f5 for an hour so you can get your whole thought out.
      - etjossem 10y ago
        Take a break, then. Breathe. Think about blind trust and where you are willing to place it.
    - rfrank 10y ago
      i'll place trust in wikileaks over the obama administration, clinton campaign, and washington post any day. this conversation is over, have a shitty day.
      - etjossem 10y ago
        May yours improve.

rfrank 10y ago

"We're talking about..." We're also talking about what they were talking about at the time, which includes who specifically to shoot missiles at from a drone. People with names like Obama say people with names like al-Awlaki, among others. People with names like Clinton say people with names like Assange, among others. I get the name Assange from the allegations of State Department employees. Mainstream also means collusion with Democrats. Want me to link the several hundred correspondence between reporters and various DNC/HRC campaign staff that have been leaked in the last couple weeks? Or do you actually believe that's a real thing even though it's not heavily reported on?

etjossem 10y ago
> I get the name Assange from the allegations of State Department employees. You get the name Assange from the allegations of a previously-unknown and untrusted conservative blog which does nothing of substance other than regularly attack Clinton. Forget FOX News - even Drudge Report refuses to touch this, and that is very telling. Not all journalism is created equal, and it is nothing short of gullible to take such thinly-vetted sources on faith.
- rfrank 10y ago
  replying to your most recent comment: 1. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/03/will-wikileaks-assange-delay-october-surprise-announcement.html# http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/03/will-wikileaks-as... 2. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-11/how-julian-assange-turned-wikileaks-into-trump-s-best-friend https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-11/how-julia... 3. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/05/hillary_clinton_i_dont_recall_ever_wanting_to_launch_a_drone_strike_at_wikileaks.html http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/05/hillary_cl... 4. http://www.torontosun.com/2016/10/03/hillary-clinton-suggested-taking-out-wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-with-drone-report http://www.torontosun.com/2016/10/03/hillary-clinton-suggest... 5. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/04/as-clinton-recovers-in-polls-trust-issue-simmers/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10... i even included a blog.amazon.com link just for you sugar. SOURCE SO FAKE.
  - etjossem 10y ago
    Most of these stories are about the fact that WikiLeaks retweeted True Pundit. Importantly, none of them are talking to the source. Were I the source, I would take these articles for what they are - invitations to give my message a broader and more legitimate reach. Unless, of course, I am also the author of True Pundit and I know they will see through me before I even get an interview.
- rfrank 10y ago
  it's cute watching you continually edit your posts. why do you think "it's fake" is the only logical conclusion to someone not stepping forward as the source of the leak from within the state dept? surely it's not because they fear a response from "the most transparent administration in history" who just so happens to have prosecuted more people under the espionage act than all other presidents combined. or how people like seth rich ended up.
  - etjossem 10y ago
    Why do you think "it's real" is the only logical conclusion to a quote appearing in a right-wing hit blog and nowhere else? It is a weighty accusation which should be taken with healthy skepticism rather than on faith. In the absence of any sort of journalistic integrity behind the outlet, I'm more inclined to believe it's a play for clicks and outrage.
rfrank 10y ago
@etjossem My source is too small for you. Your sources are too guilty of collusion for me. I'm not going to wait for Amazon's clickbait/advertorial farm to tell me something is true or not. Think it's a coincidence that WaPo has won almost nothing since Bezos took over? Not all journalism is created equal indeed.
- etjossem 10y ago
  Your source is fake. Your source is so fake that not even known alt-right bastions are willing to risk their names on it. When it appears in Breitbart, we'll talk.
  - rfrank 10y ago
    your question gets an answer when you answer mine. write your whole thought out at once, learn to proofread. i'm not going to f5 for an hour so you can get your whole thought out.
    - etjossem 10y ago
      Take a break, then. Breathe. Think about blind trust and where you are willing to place it.
  - rfrank 10y ago
    i'll place trust in wikileaks over the obama administration, clinton campaign, and washington post any day. this conversation is over, have a shitty day.
    - etjossem 10y ago
      May yours improve.