> The New York Times and The State Department are both putting their reputation (however much that means to you) on the line with their quotes I think the disc

> The New York Times and The State Department are both putting their reputation (however much that means to you) on the line with their quotes I think the disconnect here is just how much weight you put on this statement here. For a significant number of people a lot of recent news has severely damaged the reputations of these institutions as well as shown that their reputations really wouldn't be impacted by their claims being shown to be false.