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Man alive this thread. When SV wonders why it has a diversity problem, just point 'em here. Where were all you Free Speech zealots when Thiel destroyed Gawker?
by bonaldi 10y ago
Man alive this thread. When SV wonders why it has a diversity problem, just point 'em here.
Where were all you Free Speech zealots when Thiel destroyed Gawker?
Where were all you Political Choices Are Sacred crew when SOPA was being proposed?
Where were all you "protect rich bigots" stans when it was Brendan Eich? Oh wait, that's right, you were on the wrong side there too, my bad.
As for you "I guess there's a 'wrong side' these days of things you just can't say" newcomers: surprise, there have always been unacceptable opinions, such as supporting fascism. It's just that a mainstream party accidentally chose as its candidate someone who holds and expresses those opinions. That doesn't give him, you, or Thiel, a pass.
- thescribe 10y agoOk how about this: Anyone who supports Hillary is on the wrong side of History and holds views so vile no American should hold them. I can advocate for Pao to be fired now right?
- dragonwriter 10y agoSure, you can advocate for it. Whether or not you believe that, in fact. People may question both your preferred action and the basis on which you advocate for it, however.
- thescribe 10y agoWouldn't it be easier just to agree to no witch hunts than to hope the winds of public opinion never make us the witch?
- bonaldi 10y agoBut what about if you actually do have a "witch" on your hands? Like, say, an actual fascist? I think one of the conflicts here is arising because some people see Trump as an actual fascist, and are advocating the kinds of actions that are required to deal with that. Others see him as just another politician, no worse than Clinton, and therefore see the actions of the other lot as excessive and unwarranted. Sama, however, is trying to have his cake and eat it. He says he believes Trump is a threat to the republic but eh, if people want to support that it's up to them. Which is arguably open-minded tolerance of intolerance, but also the sort of "so open your brain falls out" liberalism that (ironically) Trump fans hate so much.
- bonaldi 10y agoYou can advocate but you're going to have to back up your argument first. This is trivial to do for Trump. Clinton is not currently trying to undermine US democracy, use entire religions as immigration criteria, evade tax on a massive scale, defend her historic sexual abuse, or construct a fascist state, so your job is a little more difficult making your case.