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> I'd venture to say that most folks would rather use some other option than something made in China. The device on which you typed that, where was it made?
by handedness 10y ago
> I'd venture to say that most folks would rather use some other option than something made in China.
The device on which you typed that, where was it made?
- asdfologist 10y ago> Physical products are one thing but informational products are clearly another.
- handedness 10y agoThe two things are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
- StavrosK 10y agoThe GP says they wouldn't use physical products made in China, then says "informational products are another thing", so is his point that he would use those? The comment is self-contradictory.
- Spivak 10y agoThis is the physical object and service distinction. I don't want to use services based in China because they're ultimately subject to the will of the Chinese government. I don't really doubt the technical ability of Chinese CS professionals to create a quality product, but this is orthogonal to why I would avoid them. And honestly the same is becoming true of US based services when it comes to data security and privacy. Google makes a nice product, but I wouldn't store any data on their servers that I believe has any chance whatsoever of being used against me -- either by my government or private entities.
- rahrahrah 10y ago> I don't want to use services based in China because they're ultimately subject to the will of the Chinese government. Exactly. Compare this to the case of the United States, where the government never forces its tech companies to share their data.
- rtpg 10y agoThere's a major difference in degree. This is like saying that riding a bike on the sidewalk or in the middle of the road is the same because you have a risk of being hit by a car in both cases. I would still highly recommend one over the other
- TheSpiceIsLife 10y agoIt could be argued that using the Chinese service might be safer. At least the TLAs (Three Letter Agencies) probably don't have data sharing agreements on tap with Chinese services. Ignoring other technicalities of this argument.
- rtpg 10y agoYeah, the calculus depends largely on who you are being targeted by. For example Snowden's probably pretty safe in Russia, despite it generally being unsafe (or at least moreso than the US) for Russian political opposition. I bet it's easier to bribe your way to the right person in China to get the info you want, though. Though the TLAs can get Google to talk, I bet only huuuge amounts of money would allow a private citizen to get in.
- rahrahrah 10y agoI see that you're very well informed on the subject of Chinese intelligence.
- dasil003 10y agoWhat about hardware backdoors, any concern about that?