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A colossal mistake... from which point of view? Never had we available such a huge source of fresh news. Maybe that's not the best for newspaper industry, but a

by pif 10y ago

A colossal mistake... from which point of view? Never had we available such a huge source of fresh news. Maybe that's not the best for newspaper industry, but as far at it lasts (and no serious signs of disruptions have shown up), let's enjoy it! It looks a bit like software development: Microsoft educated users to ship crap (people think that having to reboot is fine!) and we ended up having to maintain crap.

jacquesm 10y ago
It's fresh news, but it is shallow. Quality reporting requires dedication and resources, something some news organizations had under one roof. It's hard to see how that very necessary element in our society will be kept around in the longer term. The 5th estate has a very important function and without it our societies will no doubt be poorer.
- tdb7893 10y ago
  You might be interested to know that Buzzfeed seems to be doing investigative reporting now
  - jacquesm 10y ago
    I just checked out their homepage, let's just say that isn't exactly evident from the content there. I'm going to assume your comment was sarcastic unless there is some proof to the contrary. Some samples: Oh, boy. 34 of the best products from shark tank. 23 texts that will make you laugh way harder than they should. How much do you actually know about drugs? Find awesome gifts for friends and family. 27 Ingenious Hacks Every College Student Needs To Know (food, laundry and pooping). Any of those links qualify as investigative reporting?
    - ceterum_censeo 10y ago
      They did indeed have an investigative unit, but it was recently poached by CNN: http://www.politico.com/media/story/2016/10/cnn-hires-away-buzzfeeds-investigative-k-file-team-004792 http://www.politico.com/media/story/2016/10/cnn-hires-away-b... e: I don't recall any of their articles specifically, but I do recall reading a few solid articles via Instapaper and then being surprised to see that they were from BuzzFeed.
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    - eumoria 10y ago
      Pooping hacks you say?
      - jacquesm 10y ago
        No, they say.
    - dredmorbius 10y ago
      Buzzfeed, who are way up my shit list for clickbait crap, have nonetheless done some phenomenally good reporting on the TPP and ISDS issue, including multi-part deep coverage. You've got to dig for the good stuff, but it actually is there.
      - Bellthorpe 10y ago
        That report was alarmist, factually wrong in some places, and draw some ridiculous conclusions.
        dredmorbius 10y ago
        How, specifically?

by pif 10y ago

jacquesm 10y ago

It's fresh news, but it is shallow. Quality reporting requires dedication and resources, something some news organizations had under one roof. It's hard to see how that very necessary element in our society will be kept around in the longer term. The 5th estate has a very important function and without it our societies will no doubt be poorer.

tdb7893 10y ago
You might be interested to know that Buzzfeed seems to be doing investigative reporting now
- jacquesm 10y ago
  I just checked out their homepage, let's just say that isn't exactly evident from the content there. I'm going to assume your comment was sarcastic unless there is some proof to the contrary. Some samples: Oh, boy. 34 of the best products from shark tank. 23 texts that will make you laugh way harder than they should. How much do you actually know about drugs? Find awesome gifts for friends and family. 27 Ingenious Hacks Every College Student Needs To Know (food, laundry and pooping). Any of those links qualify as investigative reporting?
  - ceterum_censeo 10y ago
    They did indeed have an investigative unit, but it was recently poached by CNN: http://www.politico.com/media/story/2016/10/cnn-hires-away-buzzfeeds-investigative-k-file-team-004792 http://www.politico.com/media/story/2016/10/cnn-hires-away-b... e: I don't recall any of their articles specifically, but I do recall reading a few solid articles via Instapaper and then being surprised to see that they were from BuzzFeed.
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  - eumoria 10y ago
    Pooping hacks you say?
    - jacquesm 10y ago
      No, they say.
  - dredmorbius 10y ago
    Buzzfeed, who are way up my shit list for clickbait crap, have nonetheless done some phenomenally good reporting on the TPP and ISDS issue, including multi-part deep coverage. You've got to dig for the good stuff, but it actually is there.
    - Bellthorpe 10y ago
      That report was alarmist, factually wrong in some places, and draw some ridiculous conclusions.
      - dredmorbius 10y ago
        How, specifically?