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Are we going to talk about the election on Hacker News now? Seems most submissions deemed political have been blackholed, correct? And I think that's fine. But

Are we going to talk about the election on Hacker News now? Seems most submissions deemed political have been blackholed, correct? And I think that's fine. But if we're opening the gates, lets open them wide and not just post the same garbage that can be read anywhere else. For example, let's talk about something ignored by most of the mainstream like this excellent investigative report that came out yesterday. It concerns those Chicago riots where Sanders supporters supposedly committed violent acts and shut down the Trump speech there. Well turns out that this and many other violent acts, riots, and even possibly acts of terrorism (which is defined as violence in the furtherance of political aims, which this was), were coordinated, organized and paid for by the Clinton campaign itself, all nicely documented with proof in federal disclosure forms showing that the violent rioters were paid Clinton operatives. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/17/new_okeefe_video_clinton_campaign_dnc_coordinated_with_organizations_to_beat_up_trump_supporters.html http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/17/new_okeefe... I voted for Sanders in the primary. I'm voting for Stein in a few weeks. I don't really appreciate politicians hiring people to commit acts of political terrorism and blaming it on Sanders supporters like myself. So let's talk about this since we are going to talk about politics on HN now.

mrschwabe 10y ago
Excellent point, but to discuss politics on HN is a waste of time as there isn't an easy way to know who you are talking to - the same type of operatives you refer too are also crawling HN and pretty much every other popular social media space. Marco is either completely oblivious to the phenomena (and has bought into their narrative hook, line and sinker) or perhaps he himself is also artificially incentivized. The same could be assumed about Sam Altman who yesterday wrote an equally damning article (damning to himself IMO). I am not accusing anybody, and certainly would not and am not jumping to a conclusion based on a single article - and would welcome Marco and Sam's rebuttal - but am instead looking at the larger picture here... there are reports[1] of popular YouTubers being offered $$$ to endorse Hilary and so it's not too much of a stretch to assume they would also pay prominent people in tech too (and not to mention Hollywood as well of course). [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIjpp270dI0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIjpp270dI0
- narrowrail 10y ago
  It seems you just accused sama of taking payment from Clinton's campaign for his blog post yesterday. I know you said you are not, but you did. This is why politics should be banned from HN until the election is over.
  - mrschwabe 10y ago
    Being aware of a certain possibility, and pointing out this possibility for others to see, is not an accusation - particularly because I said and as you acknowledged it was not intended as accusation nor did I jump to that conclusion personally.

mrschwabe 10y ago

Excellent point, but to discuss politics on HN is a waste of time as there isn't an easy way to know who you are talking to - the same type of operatives you refer too are also crawling HN and pretty much every other popular social media space. Marco is either completely oblivious to the phenomena (and has bought into their narrative hook, line and sinker) or perhaps he himself is also artificially incentivized. The same could be assumed about Sam Altman who yesterday wrote an equally damning article (damning to himself IMO). I am not accusing anybody, and certainly would not and am not jumping to a conclusion based on a single article - and would welcome Marco and Sam's rebuttal - but am instead looking at the larger picture here... there are reports[1] of popular YouTubers being offered $$$ to endorse Hilary and so it's not too much of a stretch to assume they would also pay prominent people in tech too (and not to mention Hollywood as well of course). [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIjpp270dI0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIjpp270dI0

narrowrail 10y ago
It seems you just accused sama of taking payment from Clinton's campaign for his blog post yesterday. I know you said you are not, but you did. This is why politics should be banned from HN until the election is over.
- mrschwabe 10y ago
  Being aware of a certain possibility, and pointing out this possibility for others to see, is not an accusation - particularly because I said and as you acknowledged it was not intended as accusation nor did I jump to that conclusion personally.