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... but you could still use the app locally even if unsupported, etc This is also why I like apps like Day One which can operate with purely client-side apps s

... but you could still use the app locally even if unsupported, etc This is also why I like apps like Day One which can operate with purely client-side apps storing their data in a user's Dropbox folder. There are a lot of limitations to that approach, but benefits too.

dahart 10y ago
Almost all the software I've purchased in my life no longer runs. When software goes unsupported, it lasts for as long as the hardware & OS version you have will work, plus anything else it depends on, it does not last forever. In my experience, that window is typically one or two years, and the longest I remember it ever going is 6 years. Given that they've committed to keeping Panoramio supported for 2 years after first announcing it was done and yet another year for migrating if you couldn't be bothered to in the first two years, it seems to me like Panoramio has outlived a typical software download's window of life. I think I've been using gmail and flickr longer than any media based software or download I've ever had.
- dmd 10y ago
  I've been using emacs for 29 years.
  - dahart 10y ago
    Sure, me too, but do you really compare emacs to online photo sharing and map making and collaboration services, and say that the software distribution model of emacs is somehow going to work for Panoramio or other existing cloud services? Most regular non-technical computer users can't use the software distribution model of emacs for local applications. Hell, I'd probably be safe saying most programmers can't do it either, let alone use emacs.
    - dmd 10y ago
      Oh, no, definitely not. A better comparison might be Gallery[0], which I've been using for 13 years. They stopped development in 2014, but tons of people still use it. [0] http://galleryproject.org/ http://galleryproject.org/
- dsp1234 10y ago
  My experience is the polar opposite. I have Windows software that was released for windows 98 that still works today. Other than stuff that heavily relied on DRM, most of the Windows software I own still runs just fine.
  - dahart 10y ago
    I'd love to hear more about why or whether it's really opposite. I certainly have a bunch of apps I don't care about that still run, like solitaire. But of the apps you've been running since 1998, which ones do you have a lot of data and time wrapped up in, which ones would you have a hard time living without, and which cloud services did you have the same kind of investment in that are no longer available?

dahart 10y ago

Almost all the software I've purchased in my life no longer runs. When software goes unsupported, it lasts for as long as the hardware & OS version you have will work, plus anything else it depends on, it does not last forever. In my experience, that window is typically one or two years, and the longest I remember it ever going is 6 years. Given that they've committed to keeping Panoramio supported for 2 years after first announcing it was done and yet another year for migrating if you couldn't be bothered to in the first two years, it seems to me like Panoramio has outlived a typical software download's window of life. I think I've been using gmail and flickr longer than any media based software or download I've ever had.

dmd 10y ago
I've been using emacs for 29 years.
- dahart 10y ago
  Sure, me too, but do you really compare emacs to online photo sharing and map making and collaboration services, and say that the software distribution model of emacs is somehow going to work for Panoramio or other existing cloud services? Most regular non-technical computer users can't use the software distribution model of emacs for local applications. Hell, I'd probably be safe saying most programmers can't do it either, let alone use emacs.
  - dmd 10y ago
    Oh, no, definitely not. A better comparison might be Gallery[0], which I've been using for 13 years. They stopped development in 2014, but tons of people still use it. [0] http://galleryproject.org/ http://galleryproject.org/
dsp1234 10y ago
My experience is the polar opposite. I have Windows software that was released for windows 98 that still works today. Other than stuff that heavily relied on DRM, most of the Windows software I own still runs just fine.
- dahart 10y ago
  I'd love to hear more about why or whether it's really opposite. I certainly have a bunch of apps I don't care about that still run, like solitaire. But of the apps you've been running since 1998, which ones do you have a lot of data and time wrapped up in, which ones would you have a hard time living without, and which cloud services did you have the same kind of investment in that are no longer available?