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That's seeing history through some very rose tinted glasses. Sure, yes, you technically could, but you'd soon find yourself running old versions of OSs and vari

That's seeing history through some very rose tinted glasses. Sure, yes, you technically could, but you'd soon find yourself running old versions of OSs and various supporting software as well which gets real hairy real quick (say, running IE6 to keep using some web app that may well run, but has long ceased to receive updates). And then there's the less-than-ideal situation of trusting data to (or your systems with) an EOL'd application that won't even see security patching.

VLM 10y ago
But isn't that the whole point of the argument, letting the user decide how valuable his data is rather than some impersonal cloud provider? Certainly some data is more valuable than other. Is a hundred IT labor hours cheap or expensive compared to all pieces of data? Who knows best, the end user or big brother?
- dahart 10y ago
  Seems specious; this thread isn't about the data at all. In this case, Panoramio's only decision about the data was to keep the service running for years just to give users a chance to export & keep any data they want, and also offer a migration path to other services that can still work with the data. I'm not sure what I'd do with data from Panoramio. I certainly don't have a local application on my computer that can read or edit that data. In general, most cloud services I've seen shut down do the same, often on tighter deadlines. While it may have happened at some point, I've never seen happen what you suggest. I've never seen a cloud service makes a judgement call about how valuable someone's data is, and not allow it out when the service is EOLd.
cbhl 10y ago
I imagine a lot of industries run applications on EOL'd versions of Windows (digital advertising, point of sale systems, healthcare, CNC machining, banking, aviation).

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That's seeing history through some very rose tinted glasses. Sure, yes, you technically could, but you'd soon find yourself running old versions of OSs and vari

by mseebach 10y ago

VLM 10y ago
But isn't that the whole point of the argument, letting the user decide how valuable his data is rather than some impersonal cloud provider? Certainly some data is more valuable than other. Is a hundred IT labor hours cheap or expensive compared to all pieces of data? Who knows best, the end user or big brother?
- dahart 10y ago
  Seems specious; this thread isn't about the data at all. In this case, Panoramio's only decision about the data was to keep the service running for years just to give users a chance to export & keep any data they want, and also offer a migration path to other services that can still work with the data. I'm not sure what I'd do with data from Panoramio. I certainly don't have a local application on my computer that can read or edit that data. In general, most cloud services I've seen shut down do the same, often on tighter deadlines. While it may have happened at some point, I've never seen happen what you suggest. I've never seen a cloud service makes a judgement call about how valuable someone's data is, and not allow it out when the service is EOLd.
cbhl 10y ago
I imagine a lot of industries run applications on EOL'd versions of Windows (digital advertising, point of sale systems, healthcare, CNC machining, banking, aviation).