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The right to free speech is a limitation of Government powers. A private entity like Include can do whatever they want. And considering Thiel's "speech" was mo
by matt4077 10y ago
The right to free speech is a limitation of Government powers. A private entity like Include can do whatever they want.
And considering Thiel's "speech" was mostly through money, and their "speech" is mostly through "no longer working with them", it seems they're pretty much doing the same thing.
Firing, in this case, would also be an embodiment of speech. (Although I'd argue there should be more stringent anti-discrimination laws to stop people from firing others for their political opinions (but I'd also argue that he's no employee of YC)).
- basch 10y agothere is a difference between the right to free speech and the philosophy of free speech. free speech as an ideal existed long before the laws protecting it.
- ipatriot 10y agoWhat is the difference? Shouldn't we strive for the most free speech possible. The first amendment of the constitution of the United States of America states as follows: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. The government protects free speech in all its forms, including the horrible vile that comes out of Trump. Why can't us informed citizens respect other people's point of view and defeat it with facts, reasoning and logic. When we shut off members of a society because we disagree with them, we are pushing them to the extreme, leaving them isolated and creating more horrible monsters. A democratic and free society must tolerate all opinions to actually be free and not be run by a certain group that prohibits certain types of speech.
- basch 10y agoyoure asking me what the difference between a right and theory are? the right is the philosophy put into practice, the philosophy is a more abstract thought experiment and ideal. in america, the right to free speech gives prevents the government from suppressing your speech. it doesnt protect you from private companies refusing to propagate your message or others talking louder than you, or people refusing to do business with you because they dont like what you said. freedom of speech isnt freedom from consequence. companies however can choose, by their own accord, to value and prioritize the philosophy of free speech.
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- ipatriot 10y agoI believe that if everybody fired anyone because of Political views, 40% of the American people would lose their jobs. It sets a dangerous precedent.