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"Gosh, I mean, you have a right to sell oil, sure, but maybe if you play by our rules, you'll have an easier time shipping it on the rail networks we own." It'

by sk5t 10y ago

"Gosh, I mean, you have a right to sell oil, sure, but maybe if you play by our rules, you'll have an easier time shipping it on the rail networks we own." It's plainly Standard Oil-style monopoly behavior from Google here.

djur 10y ago
It seems more like UPS saying "hey, we'll ship whatever you want (within reason) but if you can fit it in one of our standard box sizes it'll get there faster and cheaper". What is the ulterior motive or side benefit Google gets from people adopting AMP? Honest question.
- jotto 10y ago
  The problem is that if you don't play by their "standard box" rules, you may not end up in the truck at all. The users browsing the AMP results may never feel compelled to scroll down to see non AMP results. So a publisher's choice isn't: "standard size for faster delivery", it's: "use AMP or receive less traffic than you're currently receiving"
- cpeterso 10y ago
  AMP articles keeps users browsing within Google's properties, with Google's tracking and ads. Non-AMP news pages are an exit out of Google's sphere, where users will get non-Google tracking and ads. That said, I find myself clicking AMP articles 5x more than non-AMP news links because I know the AMP articles will be fast and clean.
  - bduerst 10y ago
    It's using the same libraries and third party pixels as publishers were before.
  - bduerst 10y ago
    It's using the same libraries and third party pixels as publishers were before.
- xg15 10y ago
  Them becoming a "platform" where don't just link to content but can actively host, curate and present it.
chillingeffect 10y ago
> monopoly I'm still surprised so many people here are using google and not duckduckgo. I use the duck all day long. I used to revert to google when I couldn't find when I want, but I've found in the last six months, if it's not on ddg, it's not going to be on google, either! We don't have to support google. Let's just stop giving them everything for free. People sneer at using Yahoo for mail, but what is the problem, really? It's almost all aesthetic. Why give away our power and beg google to throw away profit and treat us right? Persuade your friends to use other email and search providers. Design your websites so they have Links sections your visitors can navigate instead of going back to google. That's what I do and it works.

by sk5t 10y ago

djur 10y ago

It seems more like UPS saying "hey, we'll ship whatever you want (within reason) but if you can fit it in one of our standard box sizes it'll get there faster and cheaper". What is the ulterior motive or side benefit Google gets from people adopting AMP? Honest question.

jotto 10y ago
The problem is that if you don't play by their "standard box" rules, you may not end up in the truck at all. The users browsing the AMP results may never feel compelled to scroll down to see non AMP results. So a publisher's choice isn't: "standard size for faster delivery", it's: "use AMP or receive less traffic than you're currently receiving"
cpeterso 10y ago
AMP articles keeps users browsing within Google's properties, with Google's tracking and ads. Non-AMP news pages are an exit out of Google's sphere, where users will get non-Google tracking and ads. That said, I find myself clicking AMP articles 5x more than non-AMP news links because I know the AMP articles will be fast and clean.
- bduerst 10y ago
  It's using the same libraries and third party pixels as publishers were before.
- bduerst 10y ago
  It's using the same libraries and third party pixels as publishers were before.
xg15 10y ago
Them becoming a "platform" where don't just link to content but can actively host, curate and present it.

chillingeffect 10y ago

> monopoly I'm still surprised so many people here are using google and not duckduckgo. I use the duck all day long. I used to revert to google when I couldn't find when I want, but I've found in the last six months, if it's not on ddg, it's not going to be on google, either! We don't have to support google. Let's just stop giving them everything for free. People sneer at using Yahoo for mail, but what is the problem, really? It's almost all aesthetic. Why give away our power and beg google to throw away profit and treat us right? Persuade your friends to use other email and search providers. Design your websites so they have Links sections your visitors can navigate instead of going back to google. That's what I do and it works.