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These parents were able to send their kid to NYU, an extremely expensive private college with almost no financial aid. Many of the parents who put insane press

by yaacov 10y ago

These parents were able to send their kid to NYU, an extremely expensive private college with almost no financial aid. Many of the parents who put insane pressure on their kids to succeed academically do so because they can't afford schools like NYU- they have to get into more competitive schools that offer more financial aid or lower tuitions.

broahmed 10y ago
I'm completely unfamiliar with NYU, but isn't it possible she had outside scholarships or grants?
- morgante 10y ago
  Yes, it's entirely possible. Not to mention that NYU spends literally hundreds of millions of dollars on financial aid every year. Hardly "almost no financial aid."
  - 24gttghh 10y ago
    Which does not necessarily imply that money is being well spent...UCLA costs less than half [0] of what NYU asks, and has a smaller endowment per student. What I read from those numbers, is that UCLA gets less money and does more with it. [0]http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/09/17/upshot/top-colleges-doing-the-most-for-low-income-students.html http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/09/17/upshot/top-col...
    - morgante 10y ago
      That's all well and good. One can criticize NYU's financial aid policies, but to assume that an NYU student is wealthy without knowing anything about them is preposterous.
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DarkTree 10y ago
That sounds pretty anecdotal, only because (also anecdotally) I was surrounded by many, many wealthy kids at my school whose parents put insane pressure on them due to the perceived status of telling others that their children go to "insert well-branded school here"
- sotojuan 10y ago
  Same. I don't doubt many lower income families pressure kids to get merit scholarships, but it's not true that higher income families don't pressure kids as much. In fact, I'd argue (anecdotally also!) that the American upper middle class has the most pressured kids. It's not always to say that "my kid goes to Harvard" but rather it's some strange attitude that parents have one they reach a "not wealthy enough to not work, not poor enough to get state financial aid" stage.
  - muddyrivers 10y ago
    They say "my kid goes to college in Boston". :)
morgante 10y ago
> These parents were able to send their kid to NYU, an extremely expensive private college with almost no financial aid. What a ridiculously tangential thing to say without a shred of evidence. Do you have any insight into their financial circumstances? While NYU does indeed have relatively stingy financial aid, there are plenty of students who receive lots of financial aid. (Heck, I got a full ride. If you assumed that my family was rich because I went to NYU you would be dead wrong.) You have literally no insight into their financial circumstances and should not be lobbing such insinuations around. 20% of NYU students receive Pell grants. Assuming all NYU students are wealthy is like assuming all Americans are white.

by yaacov 10y ago

broahmed 10y ago

I'm completely unfamiliar with NYU, but isn't it possible she had outside scholarships or grants?

morgante 10y ago
Yes, it's entirely possible. Not to mention that NYU spends literally hundreds of millions of dollars on financial aid every year. Hardly "almost no financial aid."
- 24gttghh 10y ago
  Which does not necessarily imply that money is being well spent...UCLA costs less than half [0] of what NYU asks, and has a smaller endowment per student. What I read from those numbers, is that UCLA gets less money and does more with it. [0]http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/09/17/upshot/top-colleges-doing-the-most-for-low-income-students.html http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/09/17/upshot/top-col...
  - morgante 10y ago
    That's all well and good. One can criticize NYU's financial aid policies, but to assume that an NYU student is wealthy without knowing anything about them is preposterous.
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DarkTree 10y ago

That sounds pretty anecdotal, only because (also anecdotally) I was surrounded by many, many wealthy kids at my school whose parents put insane pressure on them due to the perceived status of telling others that their children go to "insert well-branded school here"

sotojuan 10y ago
Same. I don't doubt many lower income families pressure kids to get merit scholarships, but it's not true that higher income families don't pressure kids as much. In fact, I'd argue (anecdotally also!) that the American upper middle class has the most pressured kids. It's not always to say that "my kid goes to Harvard" but rather it's some strange attitude that parents have one they reach a "not wealthy enough to not work, not poor enough to get state financial aid" stage.
- muddyrivers 10y ago
  They say "my kid goes to college in Boston". :)

morgante 10y ago

> These parents were able to send their kid to NYU, an extremely expensive private college with almost no financial aid. What a ridiculously tangential thing to say without a shred of evidence. Do you have any insight into their financial circumstances? While NYU does indeed have relatively stingy financial aid, there are plenty of students who receive lots of financial aid. (Heck, I got a full ride. If you assumed that my family was rich because I went to NYU you would be dead wrong.) You have literally no insight into their financial circumstances and should not be lobbing such insinuations around. 20% of NYU students receive Pell grants. Assuming all NYU students are wealthy is like assuming all Americans are white.