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> His racist, isolationist policies ... Had to take a pause right there. (Disclosure: I am a Muslim, naturalized American citizen that emigrated to US in '79.)

> His racist, isolationist policies ... Had to take a pause right there. (Disclosure: I am a Muslim, naturalized American citizen that emigrated to US in '79.) Critiques of Trump's positions are as exagerated as the candidate's own verbiage, perhaps even more so. I will not touch the "racist" item :) but as to "isolationist", this is false at face value. Non-aggression is not isolationism. Very clearly stating that US should work with Russia, Syria, and Iran (!) to finish ISIS -- oh, the irony -- is not an "isolationist" position. There is a very clear choice on the table: Will US continue as one of the principle entities pushing for globalism, or, will we revert back to pre Bush '41 and let the globalist deal with their collapsing house of card in EU and elsewhere, while we reboot substantial industry (read: not "service" industry) in this nation. [p.s. I am endorsing Jill Stein, per my evaluation of the entailed Karmic risks in this election. /g]

noir_lord 10y ago
> Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. In that instance not racist since Islam isn't a race however that complete lack of nuance and the absolute torrent of shit he has said makes him incredibly dangerous.
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- eternalban 10y ago
  I've noted a moderation and more nuanced position lately. To be perfectly frank, sometimes I wonder if DJT is not the establishment's strawman designed to keep us with the globalist agenda. The globalists' agenda is directly responsible for the death of millions of Muslims and likely a substantial number of Iraqi and Syrian Christians, with Sam's choice of president being very much in the loop, starting with her husband's policies (that resulted in the official toll of 500,000 dead Iraqi children, which WJC's secratary of state famously considered as "worth it"), to the destruction of Libya and its attendant miseries, and in Syria with millions of dispossed, and yet another nation in ruin. As a Muslim, let me assure you, if I was the president, I would make sure every single person arriving from these war zones is fully vetted. Given that I am from West Asia (the so-called Middle East) you should note that neither racism nor aversion to Muslims would motivate that approach. It's just common sense. Further, while I fully agree that since we have instigated this global crisis and thus even beyond the call of human empathy are responsible and must sleep in the bed that we have made, let it be noted that the best way to help Syrians and refugees is to STOP THESE WARS so they can live in peace in their own homeland. Again, this is just common sense. Clinton and her fellow travellers (and they are quite a few of them!) are ideologues. And ideologues are dangerous, imo, since it is their ideological framework that does the thinking for them. You can practically substitute any other neo-con/liberal for Hillary Clinton and it would not make an iota of difference. That said, note, I am voting Jill Stein. I agree with the 10 Nuclear officers that in their recent open letter noted that the psychological profile of Donald Trump is that of a man that can easily be provoked (gamed).
  - noir_lord 10y ago
    I'm not disagreeing with you on anything then (except the rigorous checks, they already do that), if I was American I'd be voting third party/spoiling the ballot. In a straight choice I'll take Hillary over Trump because as you mentioned the man is dangerously unstable and incredibly easily provoked (see his reaction to SNL today..).
  - rtx 10y ago
    Since you understand both cultures, why are people in USA not able to see the threat posed by Hillary.
    - eternalban 10y ago
      The cultures I identify with are American and Iranian. But what does it have to do with culture? > the threat posed by Hillary. The Americans who are clued into the geopolitical equation recognize that either America accepts getting demoted from world hegemon to ex-Anglo-Empire Deux, or, the "world" will need to duke it out "one last time" ... again. I have a feeling The Donald will not react pleasantly when Putin and company (not who you think, imo) tell him "You're fired!"
- cookiecaper 10y ago
  As someone else noted above, "the media takes him literally, but not seriously and his supporters take him seriously, but not literally". Trump has since walked this position back to "extreme vetting" (though you can still find the original press release on his site). Making exaggerated, hyperbolic statements that appeal to the emotional cortex is an intentional strategy employed by Trump to dog-whistle the media, and his masterful ability to bait the media is the only reason he's won anything up to this point. Showmanship is part of the game. You need to look at the consistent elements in Trump's statements, which are abolishment of free trade, tight borders, and American protectionism. That's what he's serious about.
douche 10y ago
I dunno, I feel like if you see that a group of people are causing a shitshow in your neighborhood instead of improving things, you have the right to tell further people in that group to go fuck themselves and leave you alone and find a different soft target.
- eternalban 10y ago
  > I dunno I concur.

noir_lord 10y ago

> Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. In that instance not racist since Islam isn't a race however that complete lack of nuance and the absolute torrent of shit he has said makes him incredibly dangerous.

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eternalban 10y ago
I've noted a moderation and more nuanced position lately. To be perfectly frank, sometimes I wonder if DJT is not the establishment's strawman designed to keep us with the globalist agenda. The globalists' agenda is directly responsible for the death of millions of Muslims and likely a substantial number of Iraqi and Syrian Christians, with Sam's choice of president being very much in the loop, starting with her husband's policies (that resulted in the official toll of 500,000 dead Iraqi children, which WJC's secratary of state famously considered as "worth it"), to the destruction of Libya and its attendant miseries, and in Syria with millions of dispossed, and yet another nation in ruin. As a Muslim, let me assure you, if I was the president, I would make sure every single person arriving from these war zones is fully vetted. Given that I am from West Asia (the so-called Middle East) you should note that neither racism nor aversion to Muslims would motivate that approach. It's just common sense. Further, while I fully agree that since we have instigated this global crisis and thus even beyond the call of human empathy are responsible and must sleep in the bed that we have made, let it be noted that the best way to help Syrians and refugees is to STOP THESE WARS so they can live in peace in their own homeland. Again, this is just common sense. Clinton and her fellow travellers (and they are quite a few of them!) are ideologues. And ideologues are dangerous, imo, since it is their ideological framework that does the thinking for them. You can practically substitute any other neo-con/liberal for Hillary Clinton and it would not make an iota of difference. That said, note, I am voting Jill Stein. I agree with the 10 Nuclear officers that in their recent open letter noted that the psychological profile of Donald Trump is that of a man that can easily be provoked (gamed).
- noir_lord 10y ago
  I'm not disagreeing with you on anything then (except the rigorous checks, they already do that), if I was American I'd be voting third party/spoiling the ballot. In a straight choice I'll take Hillary over Trump because as you mentioned the man is dangerously unstable and incredibly easily provoked (see his reaction to SNL today..).
- rtx 10y ago
  Since you understand both cultures, why are people in USA not able to see the threat posed by Hillary.
  - eternalban 10y ago
    The cultures I identify with are American and Iranian. But what does it have to do with culture? > the threat posed by Hillary. The Americans who are clued into the geopolitical equation recognize that either America accepts getting demoted from world hegemon to ex-Anglo-Empire Deux, or, the "world" will need to duke it out "one last time" ... again. I have a feeling The Donald will not react pleasantly when Putin and company (not who you think, imo) tell him "You're fired!"
cookiecaper 10y ago
As someone else noted above, "the media takes him literally, but not seriously and his supporters take him seriously, but not literally". Trump has since walked this position back to "extreme vetting" (though you can still find the original press release on his site). Making exaggerated, hyperbolic statements that appeal to the emotional cortex is an intentional strategy employed by Trump to dog-whistle the media, and his masterful ability to bait the media is the only reason he's won anything up to this point. Showmanship is part of the game. You need to look at the consistent elements in Trump's statements, which are abolishment of free trade, tight borders, and American protectionism. That's what he's serious about.

douche 10y ago

I dunno, I feel like if you see that a group of people are causing a shitshow in your neighborhood instead of improving things, you have the right to tell further people in that group to go fuck themselves and leave you alone and find a different soft target.

eternalban 10y ago
> I dunno I concur.