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Trump is a new player in politics, whereas Hillary represents business as usual. Hillary means more drone strikes, corporate appeasment, global interventions,

by gjolund 10y ago

Trump is a new player in politics, whereas Hillary represents business as usual. Hillary means more drone strikes, corporate appeasment, global interventions, weapon sales to Saudi Arabia, and a complete lack of transparency into government. I will not vote for a candidate that represents so much of what is wrong with this country, solely becuase she wants me to believe the other guy is worse. Fear tactics are the last resort of tyrants, my mind was made up after the DNC Leaks.

darawk 10y ago
I agree with most of that. And I agree that her campaign is mostly about fear tactics. I suppose the difference between us then is just that I think, despite the lameness of fear-as-platform, I think that fear is pretty justified by the thought of Trump being president. When you honestly consider that prospect, does it not terrify you? I don't mean that question rhetorically.
- gjolund 10y ago
  We have checks and balances in place. Trump would be gridlocked for 4 years. Hillary however has a paved road ahead of her, and what will be branded as a "mandate". I am truly scared of what this country will be after 8 years of her rule.
  - darawk 10y ago
    We do have checks and balances, but the president is in pretty direct control of the military. He can order essentially whatever operations he pleases, and they are to be carried out without much question or deliberation, if that is his wish. That's what worries me most.
- douche 10y ago
  I am terrified by the supreme court justices that would be appointed during 4-8 years of Democratic rule. Unless Democrats become associated with strict constructionism, I will continue to fear them and oppose their appointment to lifelong positions.
  - darawk 10y ago
    Out of curiosity, is it a 2nd amendment thing for you, or do you have other specific fears? Or just more general?
yolesaber 10y ago
>Hillary means more drone strikes, corporate appeasment, global interventions, weapon sales to Saudi Arabia, and a complete lack of transparency into government Trump supports drone strikes and wants to go further, including torturing the families of terrorists. Trump supports nuclear proliferation (e.g. Japan). Corporate appeasement? The guy runs a billion dollar business and benefitted greatly from the housing crisis. Transparency? He won't even release his tax returns. What makes you think Trump is going to be any different than the right-wing status quo which essentially still supports all these? Trump has NO serious political connections outside of Gov Christie, he is becoming anathema even among his own party, how could he possibly reverse any of the "business as usual" even if he wanted to? >Fear tactics are the last resort of tyrants Like claiming the entire election is stolen before a single vote is cast? Or threatening to jail your opponent? This is why people think Trump supporters are delusional and dumb. So many people in this thread posting about what they think Trump will do, despite the fact that it flies in the face of what he stands for and has said. They take the candidate seriously and ignore what he is saying in favor of their own imagined reasonings. I get it. You don't want Hillary to be president. I don't either. But to act like Trump is a political savior is a very very disturbing and strange move.
- gjolund 10y ago
  I don't think Trump will do anything. I think he will sit in his office and sulk for 4 years while getting blocked repeatedly in congress. Also, I never said I was voting for Trump.

by gjolund 10y ago

darawk 10y ago

I agree with most of that. And I agree that her campaign is mostly about fear tactics. I suppose the difference between us then is just that I think, despite the lameness of fear-as-platform, I think that fear is pretty justified by the thought of Trump being president. When you honestly consider that prospect, does it not terrify you? I don't mean that question rhetorically.

gjolund 10y ago
We have checks and balances in place. Trump would be gridlocked for 4 years. Hillary however has a paved road ahead of her, and what will be branded as a "mandate". I am truly scared of what this country will be after 8 years of her rule.
- darawk 10y ago
  We do have checks and balances, but the president is in pretty direct control of the military. He can order essentially whatever operations he pleases, and they are to be carried out without much question or deliberation, if that is his wish. That's what worries me most.
douche 10y ago
I am terrified by the supreme court justices that would be appointed during 4-8 years of Democratic rule. Unless Democrats become associated with strict constructionism, I will continue to fear them and oppose their appointment to lifelong positions.
- darawk 10y ago
  Out of curiosity, is it a 2nd amendment thing for you, or do you have other specific fears? Or just more general?

yolesaber 10y ago

>Hillary means more drone strikes, corporate appeasment, global interventions, weapon sales to Saudi Arabia, and a complete lack of transparency into government Trump supports drone strikes and wants to go further, including torturing the families of terrorists. Trump supports nuclear proliferation (e.g. Japan). Corporate appeasement? The guy runs a billion dollar business and benefitted greatly from the housing crisis. Transparency? He won't even release his tax returns. What makes you think Trump is going to be any different than the right-wing status quo which essentially still supports all these? Trump has NO serious political connections outside of Gov Christie, he is becoming anathema even among his own party, how could he possibly reverse any of the "business as usual" even if he wanted to? >Fear tactics are the last resort of tyrants Like claiming the entire election is stolen before a single vote is cast? Or threatening to jail your opponent? This is why people think Trump supporters are delusional and dumb. So many people in this thread posting about what they think Trump will do, despite the fact that it flies in the face of what he stands for and has said. They take the candidate seriously and ignore what he is saying in favor of their own imagined reasonings. I get it. You don't want Hillary to be president. I don't either. But to act like Trump is a political savior is a very very disturbing and strange move.

gjolund 10y ago
I don't think Trump will do anything. I think he will sit in his office and sulk for 4 years while getting blocked repeatedly in congress. Also, I never said I was voting for Trump.