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He may not be explicitly against non-white, non-male, non-gay, non-christian people, but he may be perfectly willing to have them thrown under the bus as long a

He may not be explicitly against non-white, non-male, non-gay, non-christian people, but he may be perfectly willing to have them thrown under the bus as long as he gets what he wants. Some people find that deplorable. There is a similar dynamic in play with Trump's support from evangelicals. His personal choices are nearly 100% at odds with their social conservatism, but many evangelicals seem ok with this as long as he nominates a judge that will repeal Roe vs. Wade. Such evangelicals probably aren't really in favour of Trump, but are willing to throw many people under the bus to get what they want as well. So... I agree that Thiel may not explicitly support everything Trump advocates (who really could), but all the same, it is valid to criticize him for the things he is willing to tolerate to get what he wants.

bcheung 10y ago
Sure, but that's a consequence of a 2 party system and choosing the lesser evil, isn't it? He's both Libertarian and gay, both are extremely socially liberal. Why do you say he is socially conservative? I'm not seeing that. A lot of Libertarian tend to vote Republican because they feel stronger about economic issues, high taxes, 2nd amendment, freedom of religion, etc, than they do about social issues but that is just because there are only 2 choices (my bedroom vs my wallet). A vote for either party is throwing everyone from the other party under the bus, isn't it? http://48laws-of-power.blogspot.com/2011/05/law-31-control-options-get-others-to.html http://48laws-of-power.blogspot.com/2011/05/law-31-control-o...
- jowiar 10y ago
  > A lot of Libertarian tend to vote Republican because they feel stronger about economic issues, high taxes, 2nd amendment, freedom of religion, etc, than they do about social issues But that's the problem. Who exactly are affected by these "Social issues"? (Hint: It's not rich white guys).
  - bcheung 10y ago
    That's democracy in general and one of the problems with it. People will generally vote for whatever is in their best interest at the expense of someone else. The 2 party system exacerbates the problem and steals choice from people by not allowing them to vote on specific issues.

bcheung 10y ago

Sure, but that's a consequence of a 2 party system and choosing the lesser evil, isn't it? He's both Libertarian and gay, both are extremely socially liberal. Why do you say he is socially conservative? I'm not seeing that. A lot of Libertarian tend to vote Republican because they feel stronger about economic issues, high taxes, 2nd amendment, freedom of religion, etc, than they do about social issues but that is just because there are only 2 choices (my bedroom vs my wallet). A vote for either party is throwing everyone from the other party under the bus, isn't it? http://48laws-of-power.blogspot.com/2011/05/law-31-control-options-get-others-to.html http://48laws-of-power.blogspot.com/2011/05/law-31-control-o...

jowiar 10y ago
> A lot of Libertarian tend to vote Republican because they feel stronger about economic issues, high taxes, 2nd amendment, freedom of religion, etc, than they do about social issues But that's the problem. Who exactly are affected by these "Social issues"? (Hint: It's not rich white guys).
- bcheung 10y ago
  That's democracy in general and one of the problems with it. People will generally vote for whatever is in their best interest at the expense of someone else. The 2 party system exacerbates the problem and steals choice from people by not allowing them to vote on specific issues.