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> It's become a spite-driven, rage-fueled, all out fear mongering and hate breeding spectacle. That happens every time. > Trump's supporters have, in some cas

by debacle 10y ago

> It's become a spite-driven, rage-fueled, all out fear mongering and hate breeding spectacle. That happens every time. > Trump's supporters have, in some cases, started talking open revolt if he doesn't win. This also happens every time. > On Twitter, there was a hashtag of #RepealThe19th, which essentially said they wanted to disenfranchise women in efforts to ensure Trump is supported. Eco-terrorists vote too. > Trump is threatening to throw Hillary in jail There's a not-insignificant percentage of the population (potentially a majority) who believe that jail is where she belongs. Being receptive to free speech means being receptive to free speech, full stop. It is a pillar of our country, and regardless of how incendiary you view anyone else, this is a country where the KKK, fundamentalist groups of all flavors, Nazis, etc, are all allowed to exist and that's important.

Delmania 10y ago
> Being receptive to free speech means being receptive to free speech, full stop. It is a pillar of our country, and regardless of how incendiary you view anyone else, this is a country where the KKK, fundamentalist groups of all flavors, Nazis, etc, are all allowed to exist and that's important. It is perhaps one of the greatest misconceptions that free speech means all speech is protected. Libel, slander, and sedition are all forms of speech that is NOT protected by the 1st Amendment.
- debacle 10y ago
  I'm not sure how that conflates with anything I wrote? Also, while sedition is illegal in the US, seditious speech is not (there is clearly a gray area there).
- Turing_Machine 10y ago
  It is very difficult to make a case for libel or slander against a public official. I can't think of a single one, offhand. As Billy Carter once put it, "That means you can call your congressman a no-good sumbitch and he can't do anything about it". Seditious conspiracy is a crime, but requires overt planning of an act to overthrow the government, or make war against the United States. Suggesting that an election was rigged doesn't come close to meeting that bar.

by debacle 10y ago

Delmania 10y ago

> Being receptive to free speech means being receptive to free speech, full stop. It is a pillar of our country, and regardless of how incendiary you view anyone else, this is a country where the KKK, fundamentalist groups of all flavors, Nazis, etc, are all allowed to exist and that's important. It is perhaps one of the greatest misconceptions that free speech means all speech is protected. Libel, slander, and sedition are all forms of speech that is NOT protected by the 1st Amendment.

debacle 10y ago
I'm not sure how that conflates with anything I wrote? Also, while sedition is illegal in the US, seditious speech is not (there is clearly a gray area there).
Turing_Machine 10y ago
It is very difficult to make a case for libel or slander against a public official. I can't think of a single one, offhand. As Billy Carter once put it, "That means you can call your congressman a no-good sumbitch and he can't do anything about it". Seditious conspiracy is a crime, but requires overt planning of an act to overthrow the government, or make war against the United States. Suggesting that an election was rigged doesn't come close to meeting that bar.