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Peter Thiel, YC, and Hard Decisions

58 points by _pius 10y ago

akalin 10y ago
How did the previous story ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12726970 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12726970 ) get knocked off the front page so quickly?
- torgoguys 10y ago
  With 232 points, 172 comments, and only 1 hour old, I would think it should still be there, but yeah, I'm not seeing it either.
  - lmkg 10y ago
    If this was an algorithmic decision, it was probably the flame-war detector.
- aaroninsf 10y ago
  I don't remember clicking any EULA. If I did naturally I didn't read it. But if there were one, I am certain that HN-the-management retained the right to dismiss, suppress, delete, or otherwise remove from play posts and comments as they will, with no appeal, no recourse, and no visibility. Those little arrows and the typical case lead us to believe that HN functions algorithmically. I am sure it does, in the 99% case. Criticism of the unpardonable actions of Peter Thiel and criticism of the indefensible decision to do business with him is obviously the 1% case.
- sctb 10y ago
  That story, currently on the second page, was put there because of user flags. It was also heavily penalized by the software flamewar detector, but we've turned that off. Moderators have not penalized the post.
  - akalin 10y ago
    Thanks for clearing it up!
  - brwr 10y ago
    Is there a way for the mods to protect the post from user flags? Normally, user flags are a good thing. That doesn't seem to be true in this case, though.
  - mjg59 10y ago
    What changes are you making to the implementation to prevent this from happening in future?
rtx 10y ago
Maybe he knew about this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY
telesilla 10y ago
Speaking as a woman in tech, I thank the team at Project Include for standing up in public. That's hard to do and in itself, means a lot.
grandalf 10y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12727602 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12727602
Longhanks 10y ago
...written by Ellen Pao. Famous for doing a not-so-well job at Kleiner Perkins, getting fired for that, and then her filing a lawsuit against Kleiner Perkins because they "fired her because of sexism" (and then losing that lawsuit in court). So yeah, I take everything I read from her with a grain of salt. (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/28/technology/ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-case-decision.html http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/28/technology/ellen-pao-klein..., in case someone wants to know)
mark_l_watson 10y ago
I will get down voted for this, but it is worth it to speak my mind: I get so fed up with people telling other people what to think, which candidates to support, etc. I don't much care for Donald Trump, but it is a free country and if people want to support him, that is their business and I support their right to their own opinions even if I don't like their opinions. I would hope that most Trump supporters are just voting anti-establishment, but their reasons are their own business.
- Overtonwindow 10y ago
  I'm voting for Trump because of the alternative. He's an awful candidate, and really a bad human being. However I'd rather vote and make that vote count, than to piss it down the drain by folding my arms and staying out. Better the devil I know...
  - thecolorblue 10y ago
    > Better the devil I know... Usually, when someone uses this phrase, they don't know anything about the other option. It sounds like you know plenty about Clinton.

58 points by _pius 10y ago

How did the previous story ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12726970 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12726970 ) get knocked off the front page so quickly?

torgoguys 10y ago
With 232 points, 172 comments, and only 1 hour old, I would think it should still be there, but yeah, I'm not seeing it either.
- lmkg 10y ago
  If this was an algorithmic decision, it was probably the flame-war detector.
aaroninsf 10y ago
I don't remember clicking any EULA. If I did naturally I didn't read it. But if there were one, I am certain that HN-the-management retained the right to dismiss, suppress, delete, or otherwise remove from play posts and comments as they will, with no appeal, no recourse, and no visibility. Those little arrows and the typical case lead us to believe that HN functions algorithmically. I am sure it does, in the 99% case. Criticism of the unpardonable actions of Peter Thiel and criticism of the indefensible decision to do business with him is obviously the 1% case.
sctb 10y ago
That story, currently on the second page, was put there because of user flags. It was also heavily penalized by the software flamewar detector, but we've turned that off. Moderators have not penalized the post.
- akalin 10y ago
  Thanks for clearing it up!
- brwr 10y ago
  Is there a way for the mods to protect the post from user flags? Normally, user flags are a good thing. That doesn't seem to be true in this case, though.
- mjg59 10y ago
  What changes are you making to the implementation to prevent this from happening in future?

rtx 10y ago

Maybe he knew about this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY

telesilla 10y ago

Speaking as a woman in tech, I thank the team at Project Include for standing up in public. That's hard to do and in itself, means a lot.

grandalf 10y ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12727602 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12727602

Longhanks 10y ago

...written by Ellen Pao. Famous for doing a not-so-well job at Kleiner Perkins, getting fired for that, and then her filing a lawsuit against Kleiner Perkins because they "fired her because of sexism" (and then losing that lawsuit in court). So yeah, I take everything I read from her with a grain of salt. (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/28/technology/ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-case-decision.html http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/28/technology/ellen-pao-klein..., in case someone wants to know)

mark_l_watson 10y ago

I will get down voted for this, but it is worth it to speak my mind: I get so fed up with people telling other people what to think, which candidates to support, etc. I don't much care for Donald Trump, but it is a free country and if people want to support him, that is their business and I support their right to their own opinions even if I don't like their opinions. I would hope that most Trump supporters are just voting anti-establishment, but their reasons are their own business.

Overtonwindow 10y ago
I'm voting for Trump because of the alternative. He's an awful candidate, and really a bad human being. However I'd rather vote and make that vote count, than to piss it down the drain by folding my arms and staying out. Better the devil I know...
- thecolorblue 10y ago
  > Better the devil I know... Usually, when someone uses this phrase, they don't know anything about the other option. It sounds like you know plenty about Clinton.