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"who stands both to be discriminated against but also to get massive tax breaks in a Trump presidency" Well, being as wealthy as Thiel is basically frees you f

"who stands both to be discriminated against but also to get massive tax breaks in a Trump presidency" Well, being as wealthy as Thiel is basically frees you from the day to day realities of being discriminated against. I'm not saying minorities who are rich aren't also victims of prejudice and such, but when you are rich and relatively famous (and any kind of minority) you are very unlikely to be openly discriminated against the same way a "commoner" minority will be. ... which makes his support for Trump seem even more selfish to me.

supergeek133 10y ago
By discriminated against do you mean someone saying hateful things to you, or someone actively going out of their way to deny you something? I mean, I see more hateful things being said to celebrities than just about anyone else.
- sedachv 10y ago
  > By discriminated against do you mean someone saying hateful things to you, or someone actively going out of their way to deny you something? More like being murdered for being gay or black or ... and the police refusing (sometimes openly) to investigate, which used to happen well into the 1960s in the US.
  - georgemcbay 10y ago
    Yes, this is more the sort of thing I meant. Sure, when it comes to hateful semi-anonymous bad things said about people on twitter or whatever, celebrities are prime targets (and that kind of sucks, celebrities are people too), but I'm more thinking about active physical-world types of discrimination, the kind that end up with you being beaten, possibly killed, or just denied otherwise deserved opportunities. Being rich/famous doesn't guarantee you won't suffer from that sort of discrimination, but anecdotally it does appear to lessen the chances by a great deal.
    - supergeek133 10y ago
      Oh, well in that context yes I agree. Rich people can afford bodyguards and security.
hprotagonist 10y ago
>Well, being as wealthy as Thiel is basically frees you from the day to day realities of being discriminated against. I would remind you that the chief claim in US v. Windsor was about the tax implications of a lesbian wedding not recognized at the federal level, which incurred a higher estate tax penalty (to the tune of ~$380,000) which is unconstitutional under the 14th. That seems exactly like something that Peter Thiel probably cares about if he ever chooses to marry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Windsor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Windsor

supergeek133 10y ago

By discriminated against do you mean someone saying hateful things to you, or someone actively going out of their way to deny you something? I mean, I see more hateful things being said to celebrities than just about anyone else.

sedachv 10y ago
> By discriminated against do you mean someone saying hateful things to you, or someone actively going out of their way to deny you something? More like being murdered for being gay or black or ... and the police refusing (sometimes openly) to investigate, which used to happen well into the 1960s in the US.
- georgemcbay 10y ago
  Yes, this is more the sort of thing I meant. Sure, when it comes to hateful semi-anonymous bad things said about people on twitter or whatever, celebrities are prime targets (and that kind of sucks, celebrities are people too), but I'm more thinking about active physical-world types of discrimination, the kind that end up with you being beaten, possibly killed, or just denied otherwise deserved opportunities. Being rich/famous doesn't guarantee you won't suffer from that sort of discrimination, but anecdotally it does appear to lessen the chances by a great deal.
  - supergeek133 10y ago
    Oh, well in that context yes I agree. Rich people can afford bodyguards and security.

hprotagonist 10y ago

>Well, being as wealthy as Thiel is basically frees you from the day to day realities of being discriminated against. I would remind you that the chief claim in US v. Windsor was about the tax implications of a lesbian wedding not recognized at the federal level, which incurred a higher estate tax penalty (to the tune of ~$380,000) which is unconstitutional under the 14th. That seems exactly like something that Peter Thiel probably cares about if he ever chooses to marry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Windsor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Windsor