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Your opinion is quite common with old vim hands, but I would have to respectfully disagree. Someone learning vim is probably coming from Atom or Sublime. The d

Your opinion is quite common with old vim hands, but I would have to respectfully disagree. Someone learning vim is probably coming from Atom or Sublime. The defaults in vim are so egregiously awful, that I don't think you can expect these folks to stick with learning. Their productivity drops to zero - there isn't even syntax highlighting - so they give up and go back to what they were using. You have to get vim to a point where they can be sort of productive, if you want them to stick with it. I think some customization is necessary for beginners. An alternate idea would be to use neovim, which fixes many of the defaults.

tragic 10y ago
Seconded. I switched to Vim as my primary editor about two months ago. I remembered how much easier Emacs Live[0] had made my life when I was giving Emacs a serious go a little whole ago, and found a sorta-equivalent for Vim[1] which smoothed over a lot of the rough edges and put in some of the modern convenience an ST die-hard like me would expect (autocompletion, package management and what have you). That left one remaining barrier, which is the weirdness of modal editing; which is the important barrier, because the only reason you'd use vim is to sign up to the pre-eminent modal editor. Maybe, two new laptops from now, or one lonely weekend, I'll take a hacksaw to spf13 and strip out the bits I don't need. But for a shallow onramp experience, it's been a godsend. [0] https://github.com/overtone/emacs-live https://github.com/overtone/emacs-live [1] https://github.com/spf13/spf13-vim https://github.com/spf13/spf13-vim