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Because joking about droning people is a thing we want our leaders to do. /s

by Nadya 10y ago

mikeash 10y ago
Yes, humor is forbidden in the halls of power. Joking about terrible things is something only commoners are allowed to do.
- Nadya 10y ago
  >humor is forbidden in the halls of power By and large this is the professional standard people are held to in positions of power. So yes, dark humor is "forbidden". Imagine a CEO "joking" about laying off 20% of the company work force in a downsizing. How would that go for employee moral? "I was obviously joking guys! You're all keeping your jobs!" A good portion of the employees would be looking for work elsewhere. Because there is no way to be certain the CEO was "actually joking" about possibly laying them off.
  - mikeash 10y ago
    It's the professional standard while in public. Behind closed doors, it's not. I would fully expect a CEO to joke about layoffs and whatever else during meetings with top executives. Doing it in front of the whole company would be horrible.
    - Nadya 10y ago
      >It's the professional standard while in public. Behind closed doors, it's not. If an email leaked from my CEO with such a joke in a "private email" - I'd be looking for another job. Even if it was "obviously a joke". Just because it was said in private doesn't make it any less bad if the public hears it or change the standard people will judge it upon.
      - FireBeyond 10y ago
        Nothing was ever written in an email. It was the usual, "sources said"...
    - sbov 10y ago
      I agree but also disagree. Plenty of people joke about off color things. But, from my experience, even in private, they generally don't joke about things they could do. So I might joke about drone striking or nuking someone. But who cares, I have no power to do either of those things. However I don't joke, even in private, about introducing backdoors into my code. The reason why is because it is something I actually can do. So yes, people take part in dark humor all the time in private. However it's usually about unrealistic things. I don't know exactly how to resolve this with particularly powerful people though, so I would err on the side of giving them a pass.
      - mikeash 10y ago
        Seems to me that this joke is on the "unrealistic things" side. First, the Secretary of State doesn't control the drones. It's not her call to make. Second, a drone strike in London is not realistic. It may be technically feasible, but it's not politically feasible. It would wreck diplomatic relations with basically the entire world.
  - FireBeyond 10y ago
    I work as a paramedic when I'm not being a geek. We make at times horrible jokes about anything and anyone, including patients. It's often described as a coping mechanism. Black or gallows humor. But to your logic, there's no way to be certain we don't actually mean malice, ill will or misfortune to our patients...

Because joking about droning people is a thing we want our leaders to do. /s

by Nadya 10y ago

Because joking about droning people is a thing we want our leaders to do. /s

Yes, humor is forbidden in the halls of power. Joking about terrible things is something only commoners are allowed to do.

Nadya 10y ago
>humor is forbidden in the halls of power By and large this is the professional standard people are held to in positions of power. So yes, dark humor is "forbidden". Imagine a CEO "joking" about laying off 20% of the company work force in a downsizing. How would that go for employee moral? "I was obviously joking guys! You're all keeping your jobs!" A good portion of the employees would be looking for work elsewhere. Because there is no way to be certain the CEO was "actually joking" about possibly laying them off.
- mikeash 10y ago
  It's the professional standard while in public. Behind closed doors, it's not. I would fully expect a CEO to joke about layoffs and whatever else during meetings with top executives. Doing it in front of the whole company would be horrible.
  - Nadya 10y ago
    >It's the professional standard while in public. Behind closed doors, it's not. If an email leaked from my CEO with such a joke in a "private email" - I'd be looking for another job. Even if it was "obviously a joke". Just because it was said in private doesn't make it any less bad if the public hears it or change the standard people will judge it upon.
    - FireBeyond 10y ago
      Nothing was ever written in an email. It was the usual, "sources said"...
  - sbov 10y ago
    I agree but also disagree. Plenty of people joke about off color things. But, from my experience, even in private, they generally don't joke about things they could do. So I might joke about drone striking or nuking someone. But who cares, I have no power to do either of those things. However I don't joke, even in private, about introducing backdoors into my code. The reason why is because it is something I actually can do. So yes, people take part in dark humor all the time in private. However it's usually about unrealistic things. I don't know exactly how to resolve this with particularly powerful people though, so I would err on the side of giving them a pass.
    - mikeash 10y ago
      Seems to me that this joke is on the "unrealistic things" side. First, the Secretary of State doesn't control the drones. It's not her call to make. Second, a drone strike in London is not realistic. It may be technically feasible, but it's not politically feasible. It would wreck diplomatic relations with basically the entire world.
- FireBeyond 10y ago
  I work as a paramedic when I'm not being a geek. We make at times horrible jokes about anything and anyone, including patients. It's often described as a coping mechanism. Black or gallows humor. But to your logic, there's no way to be certain we don't actually mean malice, ill will or misfortune to our patients...