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How about Hillary Clinton literally saying "Can't we just drone this guy?" [1] [1] https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/782906224937410562 https://twitter.com/

by Kenji 10y ago

How about Hillary Clinton literally saying "Can't we just drone this guy?" [1] [1] https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/782906224937410562 https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/782906224937410562

1986 10y ago
True Pundit is not in any way shape or form a reliable source and this quote is completely unsourced.
- jsprogrammer 10y ago
  Hillary said[0] that she didn't recall joking about it, but that if she did say it, it would have been a joke. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSTht4G4yJs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSTht4G4yJs
  - nickff 10y ago
    To be clear, this is coming from a woman who has repeatedly told bald-faced lies; anything short of a complete denial is a confirmation.
    - Kenji 10y ago
      And complete denial is even more confirmation, given her track record with lies. Remember when she told about how she landed under sniper fire in Bosnia and the entire thing was pure confabulation and she shook hands with a little girl on arrival?
      - nickff 10y ago
        I thought I was being a slightly cynical, but I had completely forgotten the story you mention. I am now approaching despondency; why would I bother watching a HRC State of the Union speech or press conference, when I don't believe anything she says?
        Kenji 10y ago
        Good question. Well, you can still watch her to draw general conclusions from her behaviour. That's why I watch Clinton, Trump, Putin, etc. It's very interesting how they behave, even if I trust none of them. Sometimes, there are even clear microexpressions and movements that reveal underlying mindsets.
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mikeash 10y ago
Yes, a drone strike in the middle of the capital city of our closest ally, obviously that was a serious suggestion....
- Nadya 10y ago
  Because joking about droning people is a thing we want our leaders to do. /s
  - mikeash 10y ago
    Yes, humor is forbidden in the halls of power. Joking about terrible things is something only commoners are allowed to do.
    - Nadya 10y ago
      >humor is forbidden in the halls of power By and large this is the professional standard people are held to in positions of power. So yes, dark humor is "forbidden". Imagine a CEO "joking" about laying off 20% of the company work force in a downsizing. How would that go for employee moral? "I was obviously joking guys! You're all keeping your jobs!" A good portion of the employees would be looking for work elsewhere. Because there is no way to be certain the CEO was "actually joking" about possibly laying them off.
      - mikeash 10y ago
        It's the professional standard while in public. Behind closed doors, it's not. I would fully expect a CEO to joke about layoffs and whatever else during meetings with top executives. Doing it in front of the whole company would be horrible.
        Nadya 10y ago
        >It's the professional standard while in public. Behind closed doors, it's not. If an email leaked from my CEO with such a joke in a "private email" - I'd be looking for another job. Even if it was "obviously a joke". Just because it was said in private doesn't make it any less bad if the public hears it or change the standard people will judge it upon.
SamBam 10y ago
Respectable organizations don't copy text from unsourced articles, change the font to Courier to make it look like a cable, and then screenshot the result. Why did Wikileaks feel the need to do this? Is it because they felt silly just linked to a completely unsourced story on a partisan rag?
- throwaway98764 10y ago
  Simple: character limit on Twitter, want to provide context to the statement, and want more exposure to the quote than a link would provide.

by Kenji 10y ago

How about Hillary Clinton literally saying "Can't we just drone this guy?" [1] [1] https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/782906224937410562 https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/782906224937410562

1986 10y ago

True Pundit is not in any way shape or form a reliable source and this quote is completely unsourced.

jsprogrammer 10y ago
Hillary said[0] that she didn't recall joking about it, but that if she did say it, it would have been a joke. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSTht4G4yJs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSTht4G4yJs
- nickff 10y ago
  To be clear, this is coming from a woman who has repeatedly told bald-faced lies; anything short of a complete denial is a confirmation.
  - Kenji 10y ago
    And complete denial is even more confirmation, given her track record with lies. Remember when she told about how she landed under sniper fire in Bosnia and the entire thing was pure confabulation and she shook hands with a little girl on arrival?
    - nickff 10y ago
      I thought I was being a slightly cynical, but I had completely forgotten the story you mention. I am now approaching despondency; why would I bother watching a HRC State of the Union speech or press conference, when I don't believe anything she says?
      - Kenji 10y ago
        Good question. Well, you can still watch her to draw general conclusions from her behaviour. That's why I watch Clinton, Trump, Putin, etc. It's very interesting how they behave, even if I trust none of them. Sometimes, there are even clear microexpressions and movements that reveal underlying mindsets.

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mikeash 10y ago

Yes, a drone strike in the middle of the capital city of our closest ally, obviously that was a serious suggestion....

Nadya 10y ago
Because joking about droning people is a thing we want our leaders to do. /s
- mikeash 10y ago
  Yes, humor is forbidden in the halls of power. Joking about terrible things is something only commoners are allowed to do.
  - Nadya 10y ago
    >humor is forbidden in the halls of power By and large this is the professional standard people are held to in positions of power. So yes, dark humor is "forbidden". Imagine a CEO "joking" about laying off 20% of the company work force in a downsizing. How would that go for employee moral? "I was obviously joking guys! You're all keeping your jobs!" A good portion of the employees would be looking for work elsewhere. Because there is no way to be certain the CEO was "actually joking" about possibly laying them off.
    - mikeash 10y ago
      It's the professional standard while in public. Behind closed doors, it's not. I would fully expect a CEO to joke about layoffs and whatever else during meetings with top executives. Doing it in front of the whole company would be horrible.
      - Nadya 10y ago
        >It's the professional standard while in public. Behind closed doors, it's not. If an email leaked from my CEO with such a joke in a "private email" - I'd be looking for another job. Even if it was "obviously a joke". Just because it was said in private doesn't make it any less bad if the public hears it or change the standard people will judge it upon.

SamBam 10y ago

Respectable organizations don't copy text from unsourced articles, change the font to Courier to make it look like a cable, and then screenshot the result. Why did Wikileaks feel the need to do this? Is it because they felt silly just linked to a completely unsourced story on a partisan rag?

throwaway98764 10y ago
Simple: character limit on Twitter, want to provide context to the statement, and want more exposure to the quote than a link would provide.