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So, instead of taking 30 seconds to disable automatic Windows Updates, this person decided to have a hissy fit and throw the baby out with the bath water. The

So, instead of taking 30 seconds to disable automatic Windows Updates, this person decided to have a hissy fit and throw the baby out with the bath water. The instructions are pretty simple. You have to toggle one setting. Done -http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/8013-windows-update-automatic-updates-enable-disable-windows-10-a.html#option1 http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/8013-windows-update-autom...

runjake 10y ago
This works well for the those rare people with the luxury over control of those settings in their workplace. I actually like the Automatic Update feature. I don't need to remember to run updates myself all the time. That said, I've been bitten by an hour-long unusable computer scenario and it's been a bummer, to say the least.
- WayneBro 10y ago
  > ...rare people with the luxury over control of those settings in their workplace. Would you kindly provide a citation for that statement? I've been programming on Windows for twenty years in various corporations - never had a problem getting Admin rights on my own machine... I'm now a consultant and I visit many, many, many job sites - and I just don't see it being a problem. Furthermore - Linux wouldn't solve the problem for those rare people who can't control their settings anyway. So, what's your point?
  - king_magic 10y ago
    It's a huge problem in more restricted environments - e.g., investment banks. Admin access can be very hard to come by.
    - WayneBro 10y ago
      OK whether it's a problem or not is definitely up for debate. The bigger point here is that switching to Linux would not help those people either.
  - teh_klev 10y ago
    Clearly you've never worked for a major UK bank. Sure there may be a handful of very specific developers who get full admin rights over their machines where whatever they're developing requires elevated privileges, but these machines are often sandboxed. In many cases you're stuck as a "Power User" or whatever group policy the IT department deems sufficient for you to run Visual Studio (or IntelliJ etc). Been there done that twice in my career.
    - WayneBro 10y ago
      Right, but switching to Linux will not solve anything for those people either because they will not be allowed to do that either. The person who wrote this up article obviously has complete control over their computer don't they?
      - teh_klev 10y ago
        I got bitten by this last week and again today. I had previously configured Windows 10 Pro's custom restart time such that my machine would not restart until x days later at a specific time if there were pending updates. I've always kept on top of this every day and check each day to see if there are any pending updates and have always installed these updates within 12-24hrs of them appearing, or nudging back the restart time by a day or so if it's not been convenient. This approach has worked fine for months....until just recently. In a recent update the "Use a custom restart time" feature has been disabled and all I can do now is specify my "Active Hours". I even had the Local GP setting you suggested configured as well.....but Windows 10 really needed to reboot my PC, ignoring my "Active Hours" and any and all of the Local GP settings you can throw at it. Twice in the past seven days I've been given the 20 minute warning and there is damn all you can do about it....despite all of these workarounds and overrides. In all fairness I think the author of the article has probably just had it up to the back teeth with Windows 10 and the seemingly new ways it finds to totally fuck up your working day. I've been a MS developer for 20 years, I really like Windows 10 but I've gotten pretty close to the author's levels of exasperation myself over the past few days with some of its control freakery.
alimbada 10y ago
The caveat being that this one setting is only availble for Pro and Enterprise editions of Windows 10.
- WayneBro 10y ago
  That's a very small and insignificant caveat. It's like saying that Linux is no good because there's this one distro (ChromeOS) that doesn't let you do anything.
nulagrithom 10y ago
The post was titled ".NET on Linux", not "Why Windows 10 is garbage". The forced update is just an easy and "fun" excuse to switch. Maybe take a look at the last paragraph: > To sum up – I’m not trying to say that Windows is not so good for the software development. For example, the Visual Studio will be probably hard to beat for many years amongst many other great tools. My point is that if you’re not tied up to some specific technology which is not cross platform (which usually means for the Windows users only), you might want to give a try to some other environment. It’s always a good thing to try out something new, hone skills and broaden your horizons.
flukus 10y ago
We don't won't to disable it, we just want more control over when the updates are applied. Windows manages to be both too passive and too invasive at the same time. When updates are ready you'll maybe get a notification in the task tray that can be easily missed and is then hidden, then if you try to shutdown it's suddenly in your face.

runjake 10y ago

This works well for the those rare people with the luxury over control of those settings in their workplace. I actually like the Automatic Update feature. I don't need to remember to run updates myself all the time. That said, I've been bitten by an hour-long unusable computer scenario and it's been a bummer, to say the least.

WayneBro 10y ago
> ...rare people with the luxury over control of those settings in their workplace. Would you kindly provide a citation for that statement? I've been programming on Windows for twenty years in various corporations - never had a problem getting Admin rights on my own machine... I'm now a consultant and I visit many, many, many job sites - and I just don't see it being a problem. Furthermore - Linux wouldn't solve the problem for those rare people who can't control their settings anyway. So, what's your point?
- king_magic 10y ago
  It's a huge problem in more restricted environments - e.g., investment banks. Admin access can be very hard to come by.
  - WayneBro 10y ago
    OK whether it's a problem or not is definitely up for debate. The bigger point here is that switching to Linux would not help those people either.
- teh_klev 10y ago
  Clearly you've never worked for a major UK bank. Sure there may be a handful of very specific developers who get full admin rights over their machines where whatever they're developing requires elevated privileges, but these machines are often sandboxed. In many cases you're stuck as a "Power User" or whatever group policy the IT department deems sufficient for you to run Visual Studio (or IntelliJ etc). Been there done that twice in my career.
  - WayneBro 10y ago
    Right, but switching to Linux will not solve anything for those people either because they will not be allowed to do that either. The person who wrote this up article obviously has complete control over their computer don't they?
    - teh_klev 10y ago
      I got bitten by this last week and again today. I had previously configured Windows 10 Pro's custom restart time such that my machine would not restart until x days later at a specific time if there were pending updates. I've always kept on top of this every day and check each day to see if there are any pending updates and have always installed these updates within 12-24hrs of them appearing, or nudging back the restart time by a day or so if it's not been convenient. This approach has worked fine for months....until just recently. In a recent update the "Use a custom restart time" feature has been disabled and all I can do now is specify my "Active Hours". I even had the Local GP setting you suggested configured as well.....but Windows 10 really needed to reboot my PC, ignoring my "Active Hours" and any and all of the Local GP settings you can throw at it. Twice in the past seven days I've been given the 20 minute warning and there is damn all you can do about it....despite all of these workarounds and overrides. In all fairness I think the author of the article has probably just had it up to the back teeth with Windows 10 and the seemingly new ways it finds to totally fuck up your working day. I've been a MS developer for 20 years, I really like Windows 10 but I've gotten pretty close to the author's levels of exasperation myself over the past few days with some of its control freakery.

alimbada 10y ago

The caveat being that this one setting is only availble for Pro and Enterprise editions of Windows 10.

WayneBro 10y ago
That's a very small and insignificant caveat. It's like saying that Linux is no good because there's this one distro (ChromeOS) that doesn't let you do anything.

nulagrithom 10y ago

The post was titled ".NET on Linux", not "Why Windows 10 is garbage". The forced update is just an easy and "fun" excuse to switch. Maybe take a look at the last paragraph: > To sum up – I’m not trying to say that Windows is not so good for the software development. For example, the Visual Studio will be probably hard to beat for many years amongst many other great tools. My point is that if you’re not tied up to some specific technology which is not cross platform (which usually means for the Windows users only), you might want to give a try to some other environment. It’s always a good thing to try out something new, hone skills and broaden your horizons.

flukus 10y ago

We don't won't to disable it, we just want more control over when the updates are applied. Windows manages to be both too passive and too invasive at the same time. When updates are ready you'll maybe get a notification in the task tray that can be easily missed and is then hidden, then if you try to shutdown it's suddenly in your face.