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how do you know the bottom of "down"? this is essentially timing the market. good if you are nostradamus i guess. not trying to be a dick here but am looking fo
by dbancajas 10y ago
how do you know the bottom of "down"? this is essentially timing the market. good if you are nostradamus i guess. not trying to be a dick here but am looking for average joe plumber advice here.
- ianai 10y agoA wise professor once told me "once the last stalwart hold out has bought into the market the end is near". Once you're to the point where everyone is seemingly in the market and people that shouldn't be are in, too, you're probably in for a swing downward. The Feds aversion to raising rates is really telling.
- kgwgk 10y agoYou don't have to wait until the bottom, but it's obviously better to buy assets when they are "cheap" rather than "expensive". Valuation and long-term future returns seem indeed related historically https://www.oppenheimerfunds.com/private-client-groups/article/asset-allocation-through-the-business-cycle/valuation-is-a-limited-predictor-of-asset-returns https://www.oppenheimerfunds.com/private-client-groups/artic... For a more detailed treatment: https://personal.vanguard.com/pdf/s338.pdf https://personal.vanguard.com/pdf/s338.pdf Of course this kind of arguments are not bullet-proof, see for example: http://www.philosophicaleconomics.com/2014/06/critique/ http://www.philosophicaleconomics.com/2014/06/critique/ And one could have missed the last years of bull market applying these arguments already in 2013 (it doesn't mean that the conclusion was wrong with the 2023 horizon, though). Anyway, ignoring valuation completely doesn't seem the right thing to do and people try to forecast returns to make asset allocation decisions: https://www.researchaffiliates.com/en_us/asset-allocation.html https://www.researchaffiliates.com/en_us/asset-allocation.ht... I wouldn't call that market timing.