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I agree that GP is deluded and entitled. Not to absolve him of his own responsibility for his decisions, but there are very strong forces out there proactively

by mfoy_ 10y ago

I agree that GP is deluded and entitled. Not to absolve him of his own responsibility for his decisions, but there are very strong forces out there proactively pushing this mindset on people. Companies spend insane amounts of money trying to convince more people that they "need" their products. It's not even just ads and commercials that are guilty of this. Most mainstream media assumes the "American Dream" happens to involve a lot of material possessions, and proceeds accordingly. It's in the little things, and it's everywhere.

reverend_gonzo 10y ago
Absolutely. Society itself is caught up in material possessions, and hell, we are bombarded by so much marketing, that we believe we need all these new things. I get caught up in it myself, but at some point in their lives, people need to take responsibility for themselves. The original poster wants everything and expects to be given everything. Whats worse is he thinks previous generations had it so easy, and can't realize the sacrifices they had to make. Owning a house was one of the things that everybody aspired to, which meant they set aside money every month, and maybe after ten or twenty years of solid savings, they could afford the down payment, and buy a house. OP is thinking of pre-2008 days, where clown and his cat was flipping houses, but that was not a normal market, and most of them lost it anyways. He need to figure out what his priorities are: Does he want to own his own home, save for retirement, or live the latest, greatest gadgets? If he wants everything, there's a simple solution. Find how to make more money than the people he hangs out with.
muse900 10y ago
I was going for the example actually as you are saying: "here are very strong forces out there proactively pushing this mindset on people." As a human being I personally own land in my homecountry and the best way to spend my holidays on is going to my farm and enjoying nature to the maximum without carying about money or anything. I am very conservative with my wage and what I do with it, as my wife is. I was just trying to bring up a point about how the way of life has changed, am not self entitled to anything, I've worked from construction in New York to gardner to software developer.

by mfoy_ 10y ago

reverend_gonzo 10y ago

Absolutely. Society itself is caught up in material possessions, and hell, we are bombarded by so much marketing, that we believe we need all these new things. I get caught up in it myself, but at some point in their lives, people need to take responsibility for themselves. The original poster wants everything and expects to be given everything. Whats worse is he thinks previous generations had it so easy, and can't realize the sacrifices they had to make. Owning a house was one of the things that everybody aspired to, which meant they set aside money every month, and maybe after ten or twenty years of solid savings, they could afford the down payment, and buy a house. OP is thinking of pre-2008 days, where clown and his cat was flipping houses, but that was not a normal market, and most of them lost it anyways. He need to figure out what his priorities are: Does he want to own his own home, save for retirement, or live the latest, greatest gadgets? If he wants everything, there's a simple solution. Find how to make more money than the people he hangs out with.

muse900 10y ago

I was going for the example actually as you are saying: "here are very strong forces out there proactively pushing this mindset on people." As a human being I personally own land in my homecountry and the best way to spend my holidays on is going to my farm and enjoying nature to the maximum without carying about money or anything. I am very conservative with my wage and what I do with it, as my wife is. I was just trying to bring up a point about how the way of life has changed, am not self entitled to anything, I've worked from construction in New York to gardner to software developer.