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I think that you misinterpreted the meaning by a large margin. The question is about handling the productivity gains. One option would be to use the gains to h

I think that you misinterpreted the meaning by a large margin. The question is about handling the productivity gains. One option would be to use the gains to have more (intelligent, as was proposed) leisure time. You do not have to work 8 hours a day if the job you did could be done in 30 minutes of work. You can still keep working for 8 hours (or as it common, more) to squeeze even more out you than was possible before. There is no explicit need for exponential growth of the productivity or population but for some reason industrialized word tries to maximize the first while the rest tries to maximise the last. In combination it has lead to devaluation of the human life and our ideals.

andrepd 10y ago
>You do not have to work 8 hours a day if the job you did could be done in 30 minutes of work. You can still keep working for 8 hours (or as it common, more) to squeeze even more out you than was possible before. I agree, 100%. Even if we aren't at that stage now, we will be very soon, with the automation revolution and continued optimisation of the industrial process. Many people will soon have the realistic possibility to do their same jobs, for the same value creation, in 2 or 3 hours 4 days a week. Yet free market dictates that they work 8 hours per day 5 days a week for even more productivity growth, because if you don't you will fall behind, in a capitalistic free market.
VLM 10y ago
"You do not have to work 8 hours a day if the job you did could be done in 30 minutes of work." You're confusing doing work with being at work. I suspect for bean counting reasons and putting on a really good show, we'll all have to "work" for sixteen hour days in open offices generating great departmental metrics, but we'll actually work about 30 minutes a day and goof off on social media and online shopping and complaining about how busy we are for fifteen and a half hours per day. Well sure I spent three hours eating lunch at my desk and another three hour break is coming up in an hour for dinner so lets get the planning meeting for the pre-meeting for the meeting started... You know how when you drive by a construction site and inevitably there's like six guys watching one guy operate a shovel? Same idea. Due to all the social media and online gaming, its gonna take ten programmers working together for weeks of pair programming to write fizzbuzz, but at least we'll all be putting in 16 hour days on paper. The whole business world is going to be like that. The future is here, although unevenly distributed.

andrepd 10y ago

>You do not have to work 8 hours a day if the job you did could be done in 30 minutes of work. You can still keep working for 8 hours (or as it common, more) to squeeze even more out you than was possible before. I agree, 100%. Even if we aren't at that stage now, we will be very soon, with the automation revolution and continued optimisation of the industrial process. Many people will soon have the realistic possibility to do their same jobs, for the same value creation, in 2 or 3 hours 4 days a week. Yet free market dictates that they work 8 hours per day 5 days a week for even more productivity growth, because if you don't you will fall behind, in a capitalistic free market.

VLM 10y ago

"You do not have to work 8 hours a day if the job you did could be done in 30 minutes of work." You're confusing doing work with being at work. I suspect for bean counting reasons and putting on a really good show, we'll all have to "work" for sixteen hour days in open offices generating great departmental metrics, but we'll actually work about 30 minutes a day and goof off on social media and online shopping and complaining about how busy we are for fifteen and a half hours per day. Well sure I spent three hours eating lunch at my desk and another three hour break is coming up in an hour for dinner so lets get the planning meeting for the pre-meeting for the meeting started... You know how when you drive by a construction site and inevitably there's like six guys watching one guy operate a shovel? Same idea. Due to all the social media and online gaming, its gonna take ten programmers working together for weeks of pair programming to write fizzbuzz, but at least we'll all be putting in 16 hour days on paper. The whole business world is going to be like that. The future is here, although unevenly distributed.