The Cybernetics angle is really interesting. I thought the Chilean Cybersyn project -https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2003/sep/08/sciencenews.chile https:

The Cybernetics angle is really interesting. I thought the Chilean Cybersyn project -https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2003/sep/08/sciencenews.chile https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2003/sep/08/sciencene... - led by Stafford Beer was an isolated case, but apparently not. An even more distant angle: I just read the autobiography of David Hilbert, and apparently he thought Norbert Wiener was an fraud of some sort. Cybernetics, Systems Science, Complex Systems - these draw a certain type person, and apparently a type of political system, too.