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There is no hard evidence that Russia is involved. Representatives of well-known internet security firms have stated that they believe the attack comes from the

There is no hard evidence that Russia is involved. Representatives of well-known internet security firms have stated that they believe the attack comes from the Russian government, but have nothing to provide other than their professional opinion (which is not based on specific data afaik). The Russia myth comes from everyone repeating each other and pretending like it's fact. I don't really think Americans think of Russia as the big boogeyman anymore so that whole propaganda spiel is of dubious advisability.

maxerickson 10y ago
It's not just company reps, the US government issued a statement to the effect: https://www.dhs.gov/node/23199 https://www.dhs.gov/node/23199
- cookiecaper 10y ago
  Yeah, the unifying theory here is that they're all taking orders from the administration and pushing the baseless narrative that Russia is the source of everything anti-Clinton to try to discredit all of the dirt that's out there on her. It's no surprise that the government is following its own orders. I think they also do this because they don't want people to know how simple it is to conduct this kind of cyberattack. If they tell everyone you have to have your own KGB to do it, there will be less people looking into it. I believe this same strategy is why North Korea was blamed for the Sony Pictures leak.
  - maxerickson 10y ago
    We very quickly went from Representatives of well-known internet security firms have stated that they believe the attack comes from the Russian government, but have nothing to provide other than their professional opinion to a giant, airtight conspiracy.
- alva 10y ago
  Read the statement very carefully. At no point do they actually say, or directly suggest that Russia is behind the Podesta and DNC leaks. The media and some politicians are full force memeing this, saying USG blames Russia for the hack and leaks. The statement does not say this in the slightest.
  - maxerickson 10y ago
    We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities. Those aren't really weasel words.
    - alva 10y ago
      >Such activity is not new to Moscow—the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europe and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities. There are weasel words if you are led to believe they are referring to the DNC/Podesta hacks. Again read carefully. To which activity are they referring to in that sentence?
      - maxerickson 10y ago
        Just promise to issue a mea culpa if they ever indict specific individuals like they have in the past. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-charges-five-chinese-military-hackers-cyber-espionage-against-us-corporations-and-labor https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-charges-five-chinese-milit... https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/manhattan-us-attorney-announces-charges-against-seven-iranians-conducting-coordinated https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/manhattan-us-attorney-a...
- 2AF3 10y ago
  Democratic administration covers for crimes of democratic candidate by accusing Russia. News at 11.

maxerickson 10y ago

It's not just company reps, the US government issued a statement to the effect: https://www.dhs.gov/node/23199 https://www.dhs.gov/node/23199

cookiecaper 10y ago
Yeah, the unifying theory here is that they're all taking orders from the administration and pushing the baseless narrative that Russia is the source of everything anti-Clinton to try to discredit all of the dirt that's out there on her. It's no surprise that the government is following its own orders. I think they also do this because they don't want people to know how simple it is to conduct this kind of cyberattack. If they tell everyone you have to have your own KGB to do it, there will be less people looking into it. I believe this same strategy is why North Korea was blamed for the Sony Pictures leak.
- maxerickson 10y ago
  We very quickly went from Representatives of well-known internet security firms have stated that they believe the attack comes from the Russian government, but have nothing to provide other than their professional opinion to a giant, airtight conspiracy.
alva 10y ago
Read the statement very carefully. At no point do they actually say, or directly suggest that Russia is behind the Podesta and DNC leaks. The media and some politicians are full force memeing this, saying USG blames Russia for the hack and leaks. The statement does not say this in the slightest.
- maxerickson 10y ago
  We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities. Those aren't really weasel words.
  - alva 10y ago
    >Such activity is not new to Moscow—the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europe and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities. There are weasel words if you are led to believe they are referring to the DNC/Podesta hacks. Again read carefully. To which activity are they referring to in that sentence?
    - maxerickson 10y ago
      Just promise to issue a mea culpa if they ever indict specific individuals like they have in the past. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-charges-five-chinese-military-hackers-cyber-espionage-against-us-corporations-and-labor https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-charges-five-chinese-milit... https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/manhattan-us-attorney-announces-charges-against-seven-iranians-conducting-coordinated https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/manhattan-us-attorney-a...
2AF3 10y ago
Democratic administration covers for crimes of democratic candidate by accusing Russia. News at 11.