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>Not having yearly updates that change everything Yeah, right. >not being bound to Apple hardware. Not an issue for years already, unless we are talking abou

by konart 10y ago

>Not having yearly updates that change everything Yeah, right. >not being bound to Apple hardware. Not an issue for years already, unless we are talking about some very specific hardware. PS: not trying to advocate for either of systems, worked on both linux (ubuntu, arch, centos) and macOS. Both have their share of pros and cons.

adamors 10y ago
I'm using a Hackintosh for 4 years now. It's definitely not true that one is bound to Apple hardware.
- mugsie 10y ago
  Well, from a legal perspective you are bound to their hardware. A Hackintosh is a breach of the EULA, and no company should allow one to be used for their development, as it can create a potentially massive liability for them.
  - pjmlp 10y ago
    While true, EULAs aren't valid in many countries, regardless what companies wish for. Having said this, I also don't agree with using Hackintoshs.
  - adamors 10y ago
    AFAIK EULAs are entirely illegal and unenforceable in the EU.
sparrish 10y ago
I would likely go mad if I had to use a Mac keyboard without a 'delete' key. Why did they remove that?
- pmontra 10y ago
  Yeah, crazy. It's Fn-Backspace to delete. Uncomfortable and no wonder almost no Mac user know about it. Maybe a reason for the gain in popularity of vim? It's X (upcase) to delete forward there.
- insulanian 10y ago
  I was worried about the keyboard when I was planning to buy a Mac, but it took no time to get used to it and actually like it so much that I now think that having less keys is actually better. Having to press `fn` key in addition to backspace key is not a big deal at all, and I like more `fn` in combination with cursor keys than separate PgUp/PgDn/Home/End keys.
- konart 10y ago
  Then... don't? It's not like you can't use any other keyboard. Mine is still wrapped in plastic somewhere in a box.
pimeys 10y ago
> >Not having yearly updates that change everything >Yeah, right. Minimal Arch Linux with a minimal desktop and rolling updates. > >not being bound to Apple hardware. >Not an issue for years already, unless we are talking about some very specific hardware. It is an issue, if you have a budget and you want a fast computer for compiling and so on. Right now I'm having a modern 4GHz i7 with 32 gigabytes of ram, a m.2 SSD and two monitors where the other is a 30" IPS. Having the fastest computer in the office is pretty nice, with a price of a macbook and monitor.
- konart 10y ago
  You can install macOS on almost any modern hardwere these days. That's why it is not an issue >Minimal Arch Linux with a minimal desktop and rolling updates. I switched to Arch after Ubuntu 10.04 (or 10.10, I don't really remember when they brought Unity up). And yes - it's much better in this regard, but you still see an update on their main page from time to time that will tell you this and that about some big changes and instructions to handle this. OSX\macOS didn't have anything like that in years now.

by konart 10y ago

adamors 10y ago

I'm using a Hackintosh for 4 years now. It's definitely not true that one is bound to Apple hardware.

mugsie 10y ago
Well, from a legal perspective you are bound to their hardware. A Hackintosh is a breach of the EULA, and no company should allow one to be used for their development, as it can create a potentially massive liability for them.
- pjmlp 10y ago
  While true, EULAs aren't valid in many countries, regardless what companies wish for. Having said this, I also don't agree with using Hackintoshs.
- adamors 10y ago
  AFAIK EULAs are entirely illegal and unenforceable in the EU.

sparrish 10y ago

I would likely go mad if I had to use a Mac keyboard without a 'delete' key. Why did they remove that?

pmontra 10y ago
Yeah, crazy. It's Fn-Backspace to delete. Uncomfortable and no wonder almost no Mac user know about it. Maybe a reason for the gain in popularity of vim? It's X (upcase) to delete forward there.
insulanian 10y ago
I was worried about the keyboard when I was planning to buy a Mac, but it took no time to get used to it and actually like it so much that I now think that having less keys is actually better. Having to press `fn` key in addition to backspace key is not a big deal at all, and I like more `fn` in combination with cursor keys than separate PgUp/PgDn/Home/End keys.
konart 10y ago
Then... don't? It's not like you can't use any other keyboard. Mine is still wrapped in plastic somewhere in a box.

pimeys 10y ago

> >Not having yearly updates that change everything >Yeah, right. Minimal Arch Linux with a minimal desktop and rolling updates. > >not being bound to Apple hardware. >Not an issue for years already, unless we are talking about some very specific hardware. It is an issue, if you have a budget and you want a fast computer for compiling and so on. Right now I'm having a modern 4GHz i7 with 32 gigabytes of ram, a m.2 SSD and two monitors where the other is a 30" IPS. Having the fastest computer in the office is pretty nice, with a price of a macbook and monitor.

konart 10y ago
You can install macOS on almost any modern hardwere these days. That's why it is not an issue >Minimal Arch Linux with a minimal desktop and rolling updates. I switched to Arch after Ubuntu 10.04 (or 10.10, I don't really remember when they brought Unity up). And yes - it's much better in this regard, but you still see an update on their main page from time to time that will tell you this and that about some big changes and instructions to handle this. OSX\macOS didn't have anything like that in years now.